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blade
03-02-2005, 10:14 PM
does anyone know of somebody that owns one of these trucks, i was on a ford forum and all i read about was problems, i mean that was the majority, whats ford doin wrong wiht their trucks, ive always thought fords were pretty good, ive never really dissed the fords , but after readin all about them i was surprised, waht do yall think about them?
DaHoe4x4Ag
03-02-2005, 10:24 PM
todd owns one on here, he should chime in sooner or later
my next truck will be a ford diesel. i'll first try to find a good used one with the 7.3. if i can't then i will happily get the 6.0!
Josh M
03-02-2005, 10:36 PM
Ahh, the motor is pretty decent, the 03's and the 04's had their share of problems, but the motor is good for the most part. I like the D-Max myself, but all three motors are pretty comparable.
i work for a truck accessory manufacturer. at my shop, we sell and install all kinds of aftermarket products. 90% of my customers are brand new diesels, or 3/4T and 1T trucks within a year old. i have seen MANY customers come back and get everything removed/appraised so that ford can give them a new truck under the lemon law. i personally have about 5 friends that have had them bought back. there are good ones, and really bad ones. just luck of the draw i guess. alot of the problems stem from different sensors, injectors/pump, and the emission controls. ive heard of the tranny shellin out as well.
carterbeauford
03-04-2005, 11:49 AM
they run like a bat out of hell but it seems not for very long :think:
there are many with no problems but you still run a statistically higher chance of serious problems than you do with a cummins or duramax.
still a good truck :imo but i would not buy one if it had to be on the road 100% of the time and never break down.
we just got a new king ranch 05 for our company fleet today. i got to drive it for a while. i must say im VERY impressed. i laid down some good rubber without trying. it was about as peppy as the truck i put the edge on the other day.
Charlie 2 02's
03-07-2005, 10:30 PM
umm i blew a 6.0 away with the edge, on level 1, and i am lifted without gears, and i beat this ford bad, dont know tho
Stepside454
03-08-2005, 04:57 PM
My friend has an 04 Superduty with the 6.0 and a Predator tunner. His truck goes just as good as my D-Maxx and he hasnt had any problems yet.... he has about 31,000 miles on his truck to date. Seems like a decent truck, im just not too partial to Fords interiors... they seem a little more like a work truck :imo
Andrew
DaHoe4x4Ag
03-08-2005, 05:20 PM
they seem a little more like a work truck :imo
Andrew
they are a work truck! fords can take a rougher beating than chevy and dodge can any day of the week, or that's my opinion. all the ranchers in my area run fords, the ones that run dodge's do nothing but bitch and moan. i haven't heard to many problems with the chevys. but if your going to get a truck meant for work........ford..........street queen........dodge.
Stepside454
03-08-2005, 07:07 PM
they are a work truck! fords can take a rougher beating than chevy and dodge can any day of the week, or that's my opinion. all the ranchers in my area run fords, the ones that run dodge's do nothing but bitch and moan. i haven't heard to many problems with the chevys. but if your going to get a truck meant for work........ford..........street queen........dodge.
Geez man i wasnt tryin to bash Fords! I was just stating my opinion about the interior. I wasnt talking about the way the truck is built and what it can handle. There is no doubt that a solid axle truck is designed to be more of a "work Truck" than an IFS truck. Chill out
The 6.0 had its fair share of problems, I will admit. But its the more capable of making more power from just tuning that the CTD or Duramax. The '03 engines are the ones you wanna avoid. Look on the pass side valve cover and that will tell you the year of the engine. I know a couple ppl with problems with their 6.0 and many that never had a single problem. The will out pull a CTD and Duramax at 75mph but it won't get there near as fast.
Every diesel has its fair share of problems, hell just a week ago I saw a '05 Duramax on the side of the road with the hood up. CTD is a true motor but the rest of the truck isn't quite up to par with the engine.
The Torqshift has had a couple issues but not as many as the Ally.
I know a guy that just bought a '05 GMC Duramax and put a Superchips in it and he said it won't even come close to my Ford. His words not mine. We haven't raced yet but I'll let you know.
On the '03-'04 6.0's unplug the EGR and you will have less problems in the future. The 6.0 is the only diesel with an EGR out right now and a EGR on a diesel spells trouble. Duramax and CTD will have them by '07 and each will have a problem.
The 6.0 PSD is the most advanced diesel engine out right now. So one little sensor can cause the truck to run like shit.
I love my 6.0 and will never go back to a 7.3 or think of owning a Duramax. I like the CTD but just prefer the 6.0 to it.
Remember the ones with problems are the loudest.
My friend has an 04 Superduty with the 6.0 and a Predator tunner. His truck goes just as good as my D-Maxx and he hasnt had any problems yet.... he has about 31,000 miles on his truck to date. Seems like a decent truck, im just not too partial to Fords interiors... they seem a little more like a work truck :imo
Andrew
I'd suggest taking out that Predator on that 6.0 unless he wants to change headgaskets out in a few thousand more miles. :imo:
Stepside454
03-09-2005, 08:44 AM
He runs it on level 3, 65 Horse, and he doesnt drive like an Asshole so im not worried, plus i havnt heard one bad thing about it from anyone else.
Stepside454
03-09-2005, 08:46 AM
I know a guy that just bought a '05 GMC Duramax and put a Superchips in it and he said it won't even come close to my Ford.
I thought i remember you saying that the Superchips was the best tunner for the Duramax.... hands down.....
DaHoe4x4Ag
03-09-2005, 02:55 PM
Geez man i wasnt tryin to bash Fords! I was just stating my opinion about the interior. I wasnt talking about the way the truck is built and what it can handle. There is no doubt that a solid axle truck is designed to be more of a "work Truck" than an IFS truck. Chill out
oh i wasn't trying to imply that you were bashing fords at all man. i personally don't like some of the things on the interior myself! :head:
Stepside454
03-09-2005, 04:21 PM
oh i wasn't trying to imply that you were bashing fords at all man. i personally don't like some of the things on the interior myself! :head:
Okay man, sorry i missunderstood. :head:
He runs it on level 3, 65 Horse, and he doesnt drive like an Asshole so im not worried, plus i havnt heard one bad thing about it from anyone else.
The Predator advances the timing to much and doesn't just compensate with more fuel or boost. Causing higher cylinder pressures. :read:
I thought i remember you saying that the Superchips was the best tunner for the Duramax.... hands down.....
I said I thought it was the best overall tunning on the market. Now what are you trying to say? I see that your trying to be a smart ass, but your not whitty about it. Try to explain it a little better next time.
I was just saying he said my Ford could out run his truck. :read:
Stepside454
03-09-2005, 06:09 PM
[QUOTE=Todd]The Predator advances the timing to much and doesn't just compensate with more fuel or boost. Causing higher cylinder pressures. :read:QUOTE]
Do you know this from personal experience? or have you spoken to people with this problem? I talked to a lot of people about that tuner before he bought it, and not one had any problems. I was told by many people that it was the best available OBDII style tuner. Im not trying to disagree i just want to know how you came to that conclusion, cuz i told him which one to buy and i would hate for it to mess up his truck.....
Andrew
[QUOTE=Todd]The Predator advances the timing to much and doesn't just compensate with more fuel or boost. Causing higher cylinder pressures. :read:QUOTE]
Do you know this from personal experience? or have you spoken to people with this problem? I talked to a lot of people about that tuner before he bought it, and not one had any problems. I was told by many people that it was the best available OBDII style tuner. Im not trying to disagree i just want to know how you came to that conclusion, cuz i told him which one to buy and i would hate for it to mess up his truck.....
Andrew
There is about a 7+ page thread on it at TDS
I've read of many stories like this.
Stepside454
03-09-2005, 06:15 PM
do you have a link?
do you have a link?
Yes sir.
You get mixed opinions on it, but you gotta chose which side you like. I believe what they said cause it makes sense and I read about more and more Predator problems.
http://forums.thedieselstop.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2182171&page=7&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=31&fpart=1
Stepside454
03-09-2005, 07:42 PM
It's a hard call, seems that many people believe its the predator and many believe its a ford issue. I will have to talk to him and ask him about the coolant "puking". I still believe that the way you drive has a lot to do with it... he has his truck on the 65 tune and doesnt beat the crap out of it on a daily basis... but i will check with him and see if hes had any problems.
Andrew
It's a hard call, seems that many people believe its the predator and many believe its a ford issue. I will have to talk to him and ask him about the coolant "puking". I still believe that the way you drive has a lot to do with it... he has his truck on the 65 tune and doesnt beat the crap out of it on a daily basis... but i will check with him and see if hes had any problems.
Andrew
Well driving habits do play a part. But puking coolant is a cause of higher pressure. I've puked some coolant but that was running 75 mph with a 15K load on going up a incline with 35psi for a few minutes. That was my fault.
I see to many with the same issues with a Predator in. Tell him to sell it and get a SCT. Hands down the best programming for the 6.0, it will flat out smoke a Edge on level 5. Trust me I have both.
jking320
03-09-2005, 08:12 PM
Okay man, sorry i missunderstood. :head:
no problem :shake:
edit - up at school, apparently my old name is signed in here!
Stepside454
03-09-2005, 10:32 PM
Well driving habits do play a part. But puking coolant is a cause of higher pressure. I've puked some coolant but that was running 75 mph with a 15K load on going up a incline with 35psi for a few minutes. That was my fault.
I see to many with the same issues with a Predator in. Tell him to sell it and get a SCT. Hands down the best programming for the 6.0, it will flat out smoke a Edge on level 5. Trust me I have both.
Whats the SCT?
Whats the SCT?
SuperChips Custom Tuning.
With their Extreme tune, aftermarket exhaust, and an intake they say if launched correctly can run a 13.5 1/4. That's damn good without getting it wet.
Stepside454
03-10-2005, 07:32 AM
Is that the Hand Held super chips tuner? Because i heard that tuner worked the same as the Predator for creating power? Im not sure though, i can only go by what i have been told.
Andrew
Is that the Hand Held super chips tuner? Because i heard that tuner worked the same as the Predator for creating power? Im not sure though, i can only go by what i have been told.
Andrew
Its a flash tuner. Its a custom written program for your truck and your needs. There are 3 different tunes. Towing, performace/tow, and Xtreme.
Each tuner has a different type of tune written, none are the same. Not all are the same.
kboring
03-27-2005, 01:01 AM
one of my good buddies has the superchips flash tuner on his 03 6.0 PSD, and it straight hauls ass!!!!
Dark Eternal
03-27-2005, 01:16 AM
Ill just say I know about an equal amount of people with all 3 major diesels. One guy has his duramax swallow an injector - dealer fixed it in a day under warenty no questiosn asked. 2 guys have fried their auto trannys in their 03+ dodges. One was wrentied, the other had to pay for it out of his pocket. Neither have had engine issues. I have 4 friends who have major problems with their 6.0 only one is a 03. His was bought back as well as one of the 04s. The other 04 is in a legal battle with ford, hes gone through 2 trannys and his engine is just fucked up beyond all belife. The other is an 05. It ran awesome and then stsarted having all kinds of issues with it dieing and not started back - them having to replace sensors and reflash it. After about 3 months of this he sold it and bought a corvette and old 12 valve cummins
Charlie 2 02's
03-27-2005, 06:57 PM
thats a good story, i like my truck alot, and if i had to have a different truck it would probally be a cummins 6 speed, maybe then hovis would like me:sad:
carterbeauford
03-27-2005, 09:48 PM
2 guys have fried their auto trannys in their 03+ dodges. One was wrentied, the other had to pay for it out of his pocket.
running what boxes, with how much power going to the tranny? 48RE is built like a tank but any auto is not going to like the edge on level 5. if he had to pay for it out of pocket it was his own fault, do a valve body and TC first.
Dark Eternal
03-27-2005, 10:30 PM
actually neither had a box. One was out of warenty miles wise though. He races motocross and puts ALOT of miles on his truck.
carterbeauford
03-27-2005, 10:40 PM
actually neither had a box. One was out of warenty miles wise though. He races motocross and puts ALOT of miles on his truck.
:insane: that's not cool... did they keep up with the trans maintenence?
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