Truck has gone under the knife...

[willyswanter]

Prayers needed :whyme:


http://www.norcalbigdawgs.net/Gallery/albums/album74/MVC_899F.jpg


http://www.norcalbigdawgs.net/Gallery/albums/album74/MVC_902F.jpg


http://www.norcalbigdawgs.net/Gallery/albums/album74/MVC_906F.jpg

:superhack

[DirtyBlackHoe]

Damn man what are you doing? Give me some details.

[Nicholas]

Yeah, I'm not too sure I know whats goin on either...looks pretty interesting tho.

[00Silverado]

Get progress pics. Sorry we werent able to meet up with you over my break, but the damn server went down. Good luck

[willyswanter]

I'm tubing out the back half and doing a 4 link. Should have the 4 link taking shape tomorrow.

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/Misc/MVC-769F.JPG

Yeah, I'm not too sure I know whats goin on either...looks pretty interesting tho.

[Grant]

Thats awesome, looking forward to the finished pics. :rocking:

[Nicholas]

Man...that does look like a fun project. Please to show a few progress pics. Can't wait to see the finished product

[OrangeCrush]

Thats awesome, looking forward to the finished pics. :rocking:


sweet man good luck...... :superhack

[pickupman]

Looks like a good project. Good luck with it!

[Dark Eternal]

I wish coilovers werent so damn expensive. I know a 4 link will be in the future of my rig, but for now ill have to look foward to a leaf pack.

[Todd]

That is gonna be killer.
When do I bring my truck in for the conversion.
You name the time and I will be there.

[RodZZilla]

Can't wait to see the finished product. Are you going to shorten the wheelbase any?

[LowBlue02]

Badass!! You are hardcore!

[Big Sexy]

That thing is gonna be sick. Did you ever figure out a solution to the steering box woes?

[willyswanter]

Todays Progress:

New shaved 14 bolt in...

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/Misc/MVC-011F.JPG

Rear shot showing new axle in place and all the unnecessary crap removed:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/Misc/MVC-012F.JPG

Whats left of the bed, hauling to dump in a bit...

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/Misc/MVC-015F.JPG



As for the steering box, why yes I did...

Parts:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/modules/mx_album/upload/dc7dc3da13cb3903ecdc3d3b3c8ebd8d.jpg

Axle stripped of steering stuff:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/538.jpg

Ram mount tube welded on, has since been made removable:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/539.jpg

Ram Mount Done:

http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1237226-MVC-867F.JPG

Lower pump bracket fab'd and installed:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/543.jpg

Upper pump bracket fab'd and pump installed:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/544.jpg

Idler pulley and belt installed:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/545.jpg

Ram mount mounts mounted :D

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/547.jpg

Ram mounted to ram mount:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/548.jpg

Ram mount mounted to ram mount mounts:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/549.jpg

Itty bitty tie rods mounted up:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/550.jpg


-KRC Racing 3.7GPM 1500 PSI Pump
-2.25 Bore x 1.5" Shaft x 10" Travel Ram
-Aeroquip Hoses

[00Silverado]

nice progress jason, I like the IOR in the ram mount, its a nice touch:head2:

[Eisenfaust]

willy....are you going to be shortening the frame? I had seen you were going to start this project on pirate or on your site forums somewhere none the less...that is going to kickass!

[willyswanter]

willy....are you going to be shortening the frame? I had seen you were going to start this project on pirate or on your site forums somewhere none the less...that is going to kickass!

Yep, cutting the frame off at the back of the tires.

[Nicholas]

Man, I didn't realize there was that much goin on when I saw the first pics. I wish I could start on a project like that for my truck.

[Dark Eternal]

awsome man

[willyswanter]

Todays Progress:

Rear axle bridge:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/553.jpg

Upper link axle end mounts:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/556.jpg

Overhead shot:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/554.jpg

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/557.jpg

Upper link frame end mounts:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/555.jpg

Finished:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/558.jpg

Another angle:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/559.jpg

Links are .25" wall right there and I have another .120" wall tube to slide over them so they will be .375" wall when done... I may make the lowers .500" wall just incase but I'm not sure yet...

On the frame end mounts I'm going to cap the top and bottom of them for more strength and add a few gussets as well. Not going to finish weld everything till everything is done.

Get the lower links done tomorrow and hopefully get the shocks in place...

[Dark Eternal]

very nice, what size joints you using on the links?

[willyswanter]

Heims are 1-1/4" and the other ends are the large RE joints.

[Dark Eternal]

damn i bet those heims cost a pretty penny.

[willyswanter]

damn i bet those heims cost a pretty penny.

$127 a piece including heim and tube adapter.

[willyswanter]

Here is a pic of the links:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/560.jpg

There all the same length so I only need to carry one spare with me.

[Nicholas]

Damn dude...the more and more I see you are doin for this project, the more respect I get for your truck. It used to be just badass...now its gonna be insane.

[Southern Pride]

you're the man :hitit: :hitit: :hitit:

[Dark Eternal]

Hey I know its off topic but what winch do you have. How do you like it?

[willyswanter]

Warn 9.5i

Works great for me... I've used it at it's max load pretty much 90% of the time and have never had a problem. Even winched a truck up truck hill in Hollister sideways with it!

[Will]

damn... okay now i'm gonna be the stupid lowerider guy. What exactly can you do with all of that? I;m guessin u'll prbly end up being one of the most badass lifted guys around.

[willyswanter]

Well I don't really care about being "the most badass lifted guy around"... I just wanna wheel... My rear springs have been lacking the droop I have wanted out of them... And with a 4 link I can have my desired droop and compression as well as 100% positive axle control and I can predict 100% exactly what the axle is going to do under compression and droop through the design of the 4 link.

Then the tubed out bed is just so I can pivot off trees and rocks with the tube instead of my bed... My bed kept caving in and getting hung up where the tube will slide around...

[Z71bigchevy]

what size tire are you going to run after you finish

[Nicholas]

You are extreme when you go wheeling I reckon. But I'm like you too, if I am gonna waste my money on something, it better help me out a lot when 4 wheelin or something. Im not out to have the biggest, baddest truck either, but I would rather have a capable truck, and in the end, with your truck, its not only gonna be VERY capable, but also VERY BADASS

[willyswanter]

I have some very worn down 42's I'm going to throw onto it... My groover should be here in a few days and I'm going to groove the wear bars out of them. Give me about 1/2" of tread again :)

[Dark Eternal]

when those 42s wear out would you be intrested in sending one my way as a spare? (me paying for shipping etc.. of cource)

[willyswanter]

Sure boss. But when I'm done they will be waaaay worn down but I guess if they hold air there good for a spare!

[Dark Eternal]

Even a bald tire beats not having one. With any luck I wont ever have to use it, the 35" spare I have now just wouldnt do me too much good runings 42s with a locker in the back.

[RodZZilla]

What lengths are your links? Any plans to link the front?

[willyswanter]

Yep, front is next but not for a while... Those freakin shocks are expensive!!!

Links are 51" eye to eye.

[RodZZilla]

I know. I am either going coil or 1/4 Ellip in the rear for now. Someday will do C/O.

[willyswanter]

Today!!!!

Lower link axle mounts:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/561.jpg

Lower link frame mounts:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/562.jpg

Overhead shot:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/563.jpg

Suspension compressed to bumpstops, pinion rotation is perfect throughout travel:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/564.jpg

Flexy flexy, could go farther but the concrete hindered my progress...:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/565.jpg

Absolutely zero axle steer, this is why it pays to learn and design a proper 4 link system!:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/566.jpg

[norcalbrdr51]

haa this shit is crazy. are you rich, or sponsered?

[willyswanter]

Nope, starving college student...

[tallassguy]

i give u props man. thats some sic shit. i wish i could do stuff like that

[Dark Eternal]

The trick to doing extrme shit to your truck is doing it YOURSELF. Im far from rich, a poor college student more like it and im affording things I never thought possible because im doing the labor myself. Regearing my 1 ton axles is costing me a few hundred bucks for gears, and the price of lockers. Not a few grand like a shop would charge (over $200 in labor per axle, and thats if they dont have to remove them). The tubing for those links isnt THAT expensive, maybe a little over half a grand for joints, then the coilovers and you got most of what you need. Fab brackets and all and your set. Just make sure to do the research and the math and make a GOOD 4-link. It is more expensive than leafs, but not near as much as you would pay at a shop to have it done.

[willyswanter]

Plus I have no life so all my money goes into my truck... Other than the neccesities like house payment and utilities... I don't go to the movies, I don't dine out often...

And, I buy my parts over time, collectin till it's time to work... Theres no way I could of afforded to just go out and buy all this stuff at once and do it. I've been collecting the parts for the 4 link and tube bed for over a year now. :superhack

[Dark Eternal]

:word: on collecting parts. Its killing me though to have a half built up 14 bolt in my garage that is ready to be finished and I know cant go in my truck till this summer at the earliest!

[Eisenfaust]

Jason...did you get a new 14bff? you said here is the new 14 bolt shaved.... Also...why not just wax the frame after the cab and do tube frame from their back?

[willyswanter]

Jason...did you get a new 14bff? you said here is the new 14 bolt shaved.... Also...why not just wax the frame after the cab and do tube frame from their back?

Well, it's new to me... Came out of 79 3/4 ton pickup I parted out a while back.

I cut the frame off at the axle today. I'm keeping my gooseneck hitch and that is why I kept the frame up till there.

[Eisenfaust]

ahhh gotcha....now was there a prob with your old 14 bolt?

[willyswanter]

Yep, spun carrier bearing caused an excessive bearing clearance...

Todays Progress:

Today I got the new fuel tank mounted, the main hoop behind
the cab built, and I cut the frame off behind the axle :shocked:

You can see how the frame was cut off then the last 16" was bent in to clear the shocks:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/567.jpg

Overall view of bent in frame rails and the fuel tank and hoop:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/568.jpg

[00Silverado]

we need new pics!

[willyswanter]

Bed started:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/569.jpg

All cleaned up, yet again, for another night:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/570.jpg

[DirtyBlackHoe]

That is so badass. I have always loved your truck but that thing is going to be able to bog and do trails like you wouldn't believe.

[Dark Eternal]

Looking good Jason.

[willyswanter]

Did I mention I have to have this thing done by the 23rd for an event :superhack :help:

[Todd]

^^
Get busy *****.

[00Silverado]

Jason, if you need an extra hand, its finals week, and I go to school till 10 tomorrow, and friday I dont even go to school, so I can help you out for a few hours if you need any.

[willyswanter]

Nah, tomorrow I only get a couple hours to work on it so I probably won't... But then Friday I have to head up to San Jose to pick up some axles... Argh so much work so little time. Thanks for the offer though :)

[00Silverado]

Anything new Jason?

[willyswanter]

Nope, todays my first day back working on it since Thursday. New pics coming tonight.

[Nicholas]

Man oh man, I havent read this thread in about a week...that is some awesome work goin on still...Im ready for more pics.

[willyswanter]

Today's Pics:

Angle showing shock mounts and resevoirs:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/576.jpg

From the back showing the diagnols tacked in at the top:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/577.jpg

Side shot showing overall length of truck:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/578.jpg

[SierraRollinDubz]

:head: Nice work

[00Silverado]

sweet:head2:

[Will]

godamn... thats tite that ur doing all of that ur self

[Nicholas]

Wow!! That is some amazing stuff. How much travel do those shocks provide?

[willyswanter]

Shocks themselves are 18".

[willyswanter]

And to think, it used to be a nice truck, day I brought it home:

http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1249404-day1.jpg

[Dark Eternal]

haha I know the feeling, they look lowered now when you look at before pics.

http://homepage.mac.com/darketernal/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2003-01-16%2019.54.47%20-0800/Image200203031533044.jpg

[Darkstar Fab]

man your truck is coming along great. you are doing some really nice work.

[Whifflebat]

haha I know the feeling, they look lowered now when you look at before pics.

http://homepage.mac.com/darketernal/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2003-01-16%2019.54.47%20-0800/Image200203031533044.jpg



Mine looks naked! still low...

[96chevysfa]

And to think, it used to be a nice truck, day I brought it home:

http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1249404-day1.jpg
man, i remember reading on the build up on your truck a long time ago. its been through alot of upgrades. your truck looks awsome.

[willyswanter]

Well, today I got all the new brackets made for the power steering pump. I had all the old ones done but I couldn't find a belt long enough to reach around the way I had it. So I had to redo all of it... Spent today doing that and tomorrow I should have the steering system up and running depending on if I get the gas tank finished up and the new lines for it...

[00Silverado]

nice, you going to have it done by this weekend like you planned?

[willyswanter]

Lol doubt it... The actual work yes, but I forgot I needed to order the coils for the rear still... I couldn't calculate rear weight for them till the bed was done, ordered them yesterday but they won't be here till next week. Guess I could go ride around on the bump stops :help:

[Dark Eternal]

riding on the bump stops!!! Who needs suspension travel? (It would travel like hell if you dropped it out though!!!)

[willyswanter]

Got the pumps mounted today and most of the lines done. They hydroboost is done. Just waiting on some 90 degree adapter fittings that I ordered at the local hydro shop and they will be here tomorrow morning. If I can get the fuel tank in and running tomorrow, depending on if my parts come from Summit, I should be able to test the steering tomorrow night...

The big pump and pulley on top used to be down where the new one is. You can see where i cut the cast bracket and welded in plate and mounted the small pump:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/579.jpg

Here you can see the resevoir mounted, filter mount mounted, pumps in, and where I had to relocate the charcoal canister to clear the upper pump:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/580.jpg

Getting to pretty tight in that there engine compartment...

[95GMCD6014]

Today's Pics:

Angle showing shock mounts and resevoirs:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/576.jpg

From the back showing the diagnols tacked in at the top:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/577.jpg

Side shot showing overall length of truck:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/578.jpg

Looks great. Is that rear tube structure finished in these pics?

[willyswanter]

Not even close...

[95GMCD6014]

Not even close...

Ok thats what I thought. Keep posting pics, truck is looking good.

[1BADHD]

DAMN!!! Looks great. Wish I had skills like that.

[OrangeCrush]

Jason, im inspired.:read:

[willyswanter]

The jackstands are gone! The truck is sitting on the springs!

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/581.jpg

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/582.jpg

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/583.jpg

Needs 4 more coils!!!

So much still to do...

[Dark Eternal]

Looking good. You going to make it so you can carry something like a cooler out back? :grin: Also you running a detroit out back or what, I noticed that your housing is empty.

[willyswanter]

Yeah I'm swapping the guts from my old 14 bolt into the new 14 bolt. Already had 5.13's and detroit... Love my deeeeetroit.

[Dark Eternal]

Awsome. We will have twin rear axles.

[00Silverado]

Coming together nicely:head2:

[96chevysfa]

looking good. are you going to keep it with a single coil? or are you going to get another?
when are you going to test this rig out? maybe ill swing by to watch the action...

[willyswanter]

Nope, tripple rates each corner. I had to use just a single coil to figure out the exact per corner weight. Once the beds done and I get the weight, I'll order my other 2 coils per side.

[willyswanter]

Getting so close!

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/584.jpg

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/585.jpg

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/586.jpg

I should have the bed done by Sunday then I get to take it off, flip it, and weld up the bottom side :rotfl: Also need to finish welding up my 4 link stuff and add all the gusseting.

[Dark Eternal]

Looking awsome Jason!

[Nicholas]

That thing is comin together REALLY nicely...good work

[BDZ71]

:head: I really cant wait to see the finished product.. This project is real impresive IMO I dont know where you learned how to do all that you are doing, but I sure hope I will be able to take on a project like that one day.

:head:

BD

[Sr2003]

Don't see too many crew cab full size rock crawlers, looks great man!

Steve

[OrangeCrush]

what is gusseting?

[02White6.0]

what is gusseting?

gusseting = fancy word for reinforcing everything

[OrangeCrush]

thanks

[Todd]

Willywanter you gonna put the side bed panels on? Just wondering how your gonna do that.

[willyswanter]

Yep, haven't quite decided on it though yet... I origionally wanted to run the full length bed sides and everything to make it appear stock on the street... But now I want to cut the bed panels down to the length of the bed and taper them in....

[Eisenfaust]

hell yea. thats gonna be badass. taper the bed sides for sure.

[Todd]

How about some new pics, I am getting tired of wanking to those old pictures.

[Will]

How about some new pics, I am getting tired of wanking to those old pictures.
werd.

[willyswanter]

Been raining, not much done... I got the fuel tank installed and the lines done for it but thats it... My fittings for my steering are now supposed to be here Weds, supposed to be here last thurs. So maybe, just maybe I can drive it on Weds or Thursday. I'm going to be working on the bed hopefully getting it finished up tomorrow, new pics tomorrow night :)

[00Silverado]

Yeah, it was pretty crazy Friday/Saturday with the rain and fog. I was watching a soccer game, and then all of the sudden the fog starts rolling in. It was weird. I'll be looking forward to tomorrows pics. Keep it up Jason:rocking:

[OrangeCrush]

Jason we neeeeeeeeeeed pics dude!

[willyswanter]

Well heres one from todays progress:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/588.jpg

Finished the gas tank mounts and got it finished up. Got the fuel lines done, braided Earls line with -6 fittings. Made 'em myself, I'm so proud... :anitoof:

I have to wait for a buddy to come by this afternoon and he's going to take me to pick up my steel I need for the bed box. The tubework is done. I just need to make the inside of it an actual bed again. Going to use 1" square tubing for that and 1/8" plate. I'll have class after picking that up so no more progress till tomorrow!

[Todd]

Looks good.
I remember you saying you wanna keep your gooseneck hitch if I remember right.
But how can you pull anything with that setup? Maybe off the bumper if you had one.

[willyswanter]

The tongue of the gooseneck trailer will still fit in there, turning radius when backing will be cut down a bit but not bad...

[HBjeff]

that looks awesome, but wont it be a bitch to replace the back window :think: :LOL:

[willyswanter]

The whole "bed" unbolts from the frame of the truck, back window replacement would be easy :)

[00Silverado]

Lookin' good Jason, hopefully the rain will just stay overnight but will be gone by morning for you. Can't wait to see that beast:head:

[Aquaman]

That thing is awesome!

[Dark Eternal]

damn matt you havnt posted in ages!!! Good to see your alive!

[Aquaman]

Still alive and kickin... Your rig seems to be comin along, and you are in the midst of doing a mod I only dream of. :D

[Dark Eternal]

Thanks - Its a mod thats going to take me months more to complete - Im aiming for aug. We will see if that happens.

[Aquaman]

Hope so. I think I'm just gonna make the Tahoe into a slightly lifted ricer killer.

[Eisenfaust]

Well....here is a lil motivation :read: In the wrong direction :naughty:


http://mct.truckmoxie.com/showownerpic.asp?u=4138&n=109636

[willyswanter]

Ewwww

[Dark Eternal]

Needs way bigger tires and to fix that back axle. The flip pushed it waaaay foward.

[Eisenfaust]

but its got SFA...obviously you guys dont know anything about offroading...:rolleyes:

:crazy:

[willyswanter]

Todays Progress:

Framework built for the inner bed skins:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/591.jpg

Started skinning the inside of the bed. Should get the sides finished tomorrow and get it all welded up:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/592.jpg

[HBjeff]

you are one talented person :head2:

[Dark Eternal]

Looking good Jason!

[willyswanter]

I hoping for it to be test-driveable by mid next week... I should have all the raw fab done tomorrow, then I get to take it all off and finish welding up the bottom side of the bed, grind the welds down and make it pretty. Shoot some primer on it. Finish welding up the 4 link stuff and get that done which shouldn't take too long. Hope to get all that done by Mon. or Tuesday.

Done completely, hopefully by weekend after next, really depends on if my steering works or not. My ARB won't be here till about 3 weeks from now so I don't know if it will be done before the trip to the Hammers or not but oh well.

[Will]

niiice... ur truck is looking amazing noww

[willyswanter]

Good progress today!

Finished the interior bed panels:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/593.jpg

Bed skin on:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/594.jpg

Both skins on:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/596.jpg

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/597.jpg

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/598.jpg

Also got my groover in the mail today, had some fun:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/595.jpg

[Dark Eternal]

Nice, how hard is the groover to use? What one did you get?

[BDZ71]

Thats awesome :head:
Both the truck progress, and the pattern in the swampers :rocking:

You Da Man LOL

BD

[willyswanter]

The groover is the "Ideal Tire Groover" sold by most racecar shops. It's actually a club item, our 4x4 club bought it together and we just mail it to each other whenever anyone needs it... Works really easy. I just set the tires in the sun for a few hours till they got a little warm. Let the groover heat up for 20 minutes and it took me all of 5 minutes to do all that grooving that you see.

I like my free 42's :anitoof:

[00Silverado]

Thats looking sweet jason:rocking:

[Dark Eternal]

Thats awsome, makes me really want a set of groved 39.5 boggers....

[Rednecked_4x4]

wow that trucks guna look/perform badass... what guage sheet metalare you using? and how much is it running you?

[willyswanter]

It's all 10 gauge and ribbed heavily. I can jump up and down in the bed and it doesn't move :)

[OrangeCrush]

GOREY DAYS


thats shits siick dude :head:

[Josh]

whos camaro is that???:naughty:

[willyswanter]

It's mine wanna buy it? Going to slap the 327 back into it and put it up for sale, can't afford this many projects....

[Josh]

It's mine wanna buy it? Going to slap the 327 back into it and put it up for sale, can't afford this many projects....
post up some more pics of that bad boy. :evillol:

[Eisenfaust]

Jason...can you take some pics of your rocksliders? How do you like them? Can you take some pics of how they mount? Can you jack the truck up by them? Any other info would be cool to.

[willyswanter]

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/images/pccsliders_3.jpg

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/images/pccsliders_7.jpg

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/599.jpg

Yes I can jack up the whole side of the truck with a hi-lift by them and have done it in the past to get off an obsticle... I've landed on them hard and never had a problem other than a few gouges and scratches in the paint.

[Eisenfaust]

How much did it cost you to make them?

[willyswanter]

20-30 bucks in 1.5" .120" DOM.

[Dark Eternal]

Im planning on making something very similar to that. I bent my orginal westen nerf bars in the first few months I had them, and thats BEFORE I wheeled it like I do now!

[Eisenfaust]

I know you have a lot of projects going on but i cant do near that quality of work...i think you know what im saying. I would pay you and for shipping...If you wanna do it in your free time. I can get them welded to the frame im just not very skill full and or make them look good. Again its not big deal if you cant i was just wondering cause i really like them

[rkik]

20-30 bucks in 1.5" .120" DOM.

What size tube did you use for your bed?

Thanks,
rkik

[willyswanter]

Same stuff, 1.5" .120" wall.

[Todd]

I know you have a lot of projects going on but i cant do near that quality of work...i think you know what im saying. I would pay you and for shipping...If you wanna do it in your free time. I can get them welded to the frame im just not very skill full and or make them look good. Again its not big deal if you cant i was just wondering cause i really like them


I think you could find a little muffler shop on the poor side of town and those guys will hook you up. Just bring your own pipe and they might do it. Just depends if its a home owned business I bet they will do it, no corporation store will do it. Doesn't hurt to ask around. Hell I bet they could weld them up for ya too.

[Todd]

Damn Willy you got some big ass holes in those welds to the frame, that shit burn easy?

[willyswanter]

Holes? Where?

As far as the muffler shop, first of all, there benders are not correct for bending tube and will just kink it into a mess...

[Todd]

Where its welded to the frame. Might not be just looks like it.

I figured the muffler shop would work, there is an old man back in my hometown that bends up some good stuff in his muffler shop.


(I just reread my post about the holes and I hope I didn't sound like dick.)

[willyswanter]

Theres no holes, the little black spots are just the deposits left from welding, that pic was taken about 30 minutes after I welded them on. A certified welder don't take kindly to questions about non-existant holes I reckon! :anitoof:

[Todd]

This is what I thought were holes. Just must be some slag left over. :weld:

[willyswanter]

Nope, not slag, nope, not holes, just some black soot.

[2drTAHOEz71]

willys...ive seen a truck on the internet that i think is yours with a nice looking rear tube bumper....is this you? if so, got some pics of the bumper?

[willyswanter]

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/Misc/moab/rear.jpg

I'll see if I can dig up some closer ones...

[Will]

ur are one crazy ass mofo... good work :rocking:

[Aquaman]

when are the 44.5's goin on?

[willyswanter]

There not, going to use them on the buggy instead since it has axles that can handle them.

[HvyChevyZ71]

Thats some incredible work, thanks for sharing. Can't wait to see the finished product and it doing what its built for.

[Sr2003]

So your neighbors referring to you as the "Clampets" yet Jason? :D.

[willyswanter]

Actually, the neighbors on the driveway side moved out cause of some noise problem or something :anitoof:

I hope no one moves in cause it's nice not having to worry about going out and running the chop saw at 6:00am.

[Aquaman]

how's the buggy comin anyway?

[willyswanter]

It's not, no money, need to get truck done first then start saving again...

[00Silverado]

anything new with that beast yet?

[willyswanter]

Nope, been having to do some real work to pay bills and I've had a bunch of orders come in lately that I need to get taken care of... Customer always comes first :help:

[OrangeCrush]

you should hire dave to work with you :read:

[00Silverado]

you should hire dave to work with you :read:
:LOL:
you must have been :mexsmoke: paul

[OrangeCrush]

yes, yes i was

[willyswanter]

Truck up at ride height. Tail lights installed and receiver hitch installed:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/601.jpg

Backup lights installed and skins removed:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/602.jpg

Bed coming off:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/603.jpg

Bed off getting finish welded:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/604.jpg

Got about 5 of the 30 things crossed off the list.

[Dark Eternal]

Looking awsome jason. You going to paint it with POR or something? You might even think about having the bed part sprayed with bed liner for grip so shit wont slide around.

[willyswanter]

Yeah, I will get the inside sprayed eventually but I can't afford it now. Just going to rattle can it like everything else on the truck for now. Should be able to get it painted tomorrow and installed and the shocks put back on.

I just spent the last of my money ordering some custom 4340 chromoly inner and outer 35 spline shafts for my front 60... Still need hubs and u-joints too... Credit cards here I come! :mad:

[BDZ71]

:rocking: Awesome :rocking: Looks like all your hard work is finally about to pay off

You might even think about having the bed part sprayed with bed liner for grip so shit wont slide around.

:word: That would be a cool/usefull touch. But paint will look good also.



BD

[Dark Eternal]

Your going to run warn hubs and not flanges right? I would love to put some 35 spline stubbies in but cant even close to afford it now, have the rest of the sfa crap to pay for.

[willyswanter]

Well regular 35 spline spicer stubs are only about $130 for the pair... It's the chromoly ones that get expensive real quick...

[Dark Eternal]

yeah but the regular ones dont work on ford axles right? Plus I would need new lockouts, I have nice working superwinch ones now. I guess I could sell them but Still I would new a few hundred bucks to do the conversion.

[willyswanter]

No, there is a guy on Ebay that modifies them.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&category=33728&item=2458773569&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWA%3AIT

[Dark Eternal]

Does he just cut em down and re-notch it for the snap ring? Would there be enough spline left to work with the hubs?

[willyswanter]

Yep, plenty, it ends up the same exact thing that you would buy from Superior or Yukon other than the material...

[Dark Eternal]

That is probably the way I will go someday then. That and the warn lockouts. What U joints are you using? I would love CTMs but once again that is money.

Sorry to get off topic in your thread but do you think its a good idea to upgrade the stock yolk on the dana 60 from a 310 to say a 1410?

[willyswanter]

1350 would be a good upgrade, 1410 is way overkill for what your going to do, and would be pretty hard to find a yoke for your t-case unless you run a 32 spline output 205. 1410 in the rear would be a good idea though.

I'm going to use the new Spicer forged 1480 joints in my 60. Non-greasable of course.

[Dark Eternal]

I might look at putting the new spicer ones in, wouldnt hurt anything. They arnt to bad $$ wise.

[Will]

looking good. how much longer until ur able to drive it?

[willyswanter]

$46 a piece :thumbsdow

The greasables are $49 but who in there right mind would buy greasables?


I have 9 more days till the trip to the hammers so it has to be done by then... I'm hoping to have it going for test drives by friday or so... Need to make sure it all works before I drive it 2 hours to and from a 6 day off roading trip :anitoof:

[willyswanter]

I have to go here:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/607.jpg

And live to talk about it :help:

[OrangeCrush]

damn, well at least its getting tested :read:

[Whifflebat]

I have to go here:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/607.jpg

And live to talk about it :help:

SweeT! Good luck with that man! Take lots of pics! :pimp: Need some offroad smilies...

[Nicholas]

Thats insane...I don't think I could walk up that...needless to say drive up anything like that...

[Dark Eternal]

You just HAVE to go. You poor bastard. :grin:

[willyswanter]

Yeah! Today I got nothign done!!! YEEEHHAAA!!! :mad:

Well, thats not entirely true, I got my coils ordered, they will be here Friday, and I got my ARB ordered and it will be here Friday. Mmmmm $350 D60 ARB :evillol: Also got my new fuel tank pickup/sender assembly thing from the dealer and bought the rest of the bolts I needed to the tune of $140, in fricken bolts!

Oh well, as long as UPS delivers on time, should be test driving this weekend.

[Dark Eternal]

Wow wait a second... $350 ARB? Can you get another at that price!! :grin: :hail:

[willyswanter]

Lol, nope, I won a 40% off coupon for any one product from ARB at our clubs Blazer Fest event last year.

[Aquaman]

Bastard. It needs to warm up, my Cheyenne is lonely... needs some wrenches to keep in company.

[willyswanter]

Got my 35 spline stubs:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/610.jpg


And my ARB:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/611.jpg

And I also got the rest of the coils needed for my truck, but, I was sent the wrong ones... So, hopefully this weekend I can drive over to poly performance in San Luis and get back here with the correct coils...

I swear theres a higher power at force not wanting my truck to be ready for the hammers...

[Dark Eternal]

Awsome, you already have the flages?

[willyswanter]

Nah I'm going to be running Warn lockouts. They should be here Tuesday or so...

[Dark Eternal]

even better :grin:

[willyswanter]

Well actually, I'm going to take the truck out on the road with the hubs locked to see how it acts... If it's ok I'm going to order drive flanges from poly performance and sell the lockouts. I would much rather have drive flanges.

[Dark Eternal]

I would think with the ARB it wouldnt be bad at all. Sell me the 35 splien hubs :grin:

[willyswanter]

I will if I decide I don't want them. I'll be doing the test with the 30 spline stuff so they will still be new in box if I do sell them.

The diff isn't my concern, it's the front driveshaft always turning... The driveshaft is just a piece of water pipe with yokes on the end, not the best balanced thing in the world :anitoof:


So what do I win for having the largest, most viewed thread, ever on GMFS??? :)

[Aberbaseball7]

A cookie? :anitoof:

[Dark Eternal]

Nothing until the truck is drivable!

[willyswanter]

D'oh!

Oh well, that cookie sounded mighty tasty too...

Anywho, I'm reading the 42 page ARB install manual right now :help:

[Dark Eternal]

anything you learn about working on the 60 let me know because as soon as I get the cash Im putting the locker and gears in mine. I just really cant decide if I should get a detroit or what though!!!

[00Silverado]

So what do I win for having the largest, most viewed thread, ever on GMFS??? :)
Maybe a photo shoot when its finally done :mexsmoke:

[willyswanter]

Mail man just dropped these off:

http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1262681-MVC-143F.JPG

[LowBlue02]

So what do I win for having the largest, most viewed thread, ever on GMFS??? :)

A kick in the ass by me, the guy with the second largest, most viewed thread ever on GMFS! :nutkick:

[00Silverado]

A kick in the ass by me, the guy with the second largest, most viewed thread ever on GMFS! :nutkick:
poor even is jealous :gmfs:

[Blue Z Cowboy]

mooooooooooore picsss!!!! :weld: :weld: :evillol:

[willyswanter]

Pssshhhh, today was the Daytona 500, no way I was leaving the tv...

[Kilborg]

hehe, I didnt even watch the race (not into nascar at all)...I heard earnhardt jr. won is that right or not?

You expect to be on time for that trip willys?

[Blue Z Cowboy]

yea, jr got it....stewart was in first most of the race tho....

[willyswanter]

Negative, they sent me the wrong coils for the rear so theres no point in rushing now... I'm still going just not in my truck, I'll have some good pics when I get back.

[00Silverado]

Haven't seen a post by you for awhile Jason, any updates?

[willyswanter]

Been at the Hammers since Tuesday, just got back Sunday night... Awesome trails, hardest trails I've ever seen! I'll have some video soon, my truck is still safe nestled on jack stands in the driveway, getting back to work on it today.

[96chevysfa]

gonna have it finnished by this sunday?

[willyswanter]

Sure gonna try!

[willyswanter]

Okie dokie, got alot done today, may not seem like it, but I did... Worked from 7am till 6pm and I'm pooped.

Got the bed painted, CAMO BABY!:
http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/619.jpg

Got the axle end 4 link brackets beefed up:
http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/620.jpg

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/621.jpg

Got the frame end 4 link brackets finished:
http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/622.jpg

It was pitch black so this is the best I could do of the finished rear axle 4 link brackets:
http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/616.jpg

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/617.jpg

Painted my coils camo!:
http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/618.jpg

35 spline stubs painted too:
http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/623.jpg

This week the rest of the parts, forged u-joints, 14 bolt bearing kit, etc, will be here and I should have it ready for Sunday! Depends on the weather...

[Dark Eternal]

Niiiice, I should paint my stubbies as well, never even thought about it.

[Todd]

Looks good.

[00Silverado]

Okie dokie, got alot done today, may not seem like it, but I did... Worked from 7am till 6pm and I'm pooped.
This week the rest of the parts, forged u-joints, 14 bolt bearing kit, etc, will be here and I should have it ready for Sunday! Depends on the weather...
Nice work Jason, however the forecast for tomorrow and thursday looks pretty nasty. Hopefully it will be alright for you :ninja:

[willyswanter]

Yep, says rain starting around noon tomorrow and were supposed to get an inch a day for 3 days :bawl:

Guess I'm off to wal-mart to buy a canopy thingy to cover the truck while I work on it... Can't wait for my new shop building... Mmmm 5k square feet of shop!

[Dark Eternal]

I hate you. First you have all the tools. Now a shop building. :worship:

[96chevysfa]

very nice work, when you done, maybe you can do somethign like that to mine!
jk

[willyswanter]

Welp, today I got the rest of the old stuff cut off of the frame and wire wheeled the whole thing and primed it. Was about to paint when the wind rolled in and I was gettin more paint on my cab than the frame... My cab is now about 1/6 black and red :anitoof:

Anywho, got the axle end 4 link stuff finished and primed. Got the link arms sleeved, now 3/8" thick, and painted. Got the fuel tank modified, welded, and painted. Got the straps for the tank painted. Got the fuel pickup modified, had to add the line for the vapor recovery, that was no easy task...

As soon as I get some good weather I can bolt everything together, set up the rear gears, throw in the front arb, get the steering working, and test drive it! :ninja:

[Rednecked_4x4]

CAMO!!!!! :head: :anitoof: :anitoof:

[willyswanter]

CAMO!!!!! :head: :anitoof: :anitoof:

Yeah, I did the link arms in desert camo, now I'll be able to go to the desert or the woods and dissapear! :anitoof:

[willyswanter]

Ok, had about 10 minutes of no rain this morning so I got the black sprayed onto the frame then after that it was rain all day... But screw it, worked straight threw it, probably have pneumonia in a few days but it's worth it, got alot done!

Painted frame:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/624.jpg

New fuel lines ran:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/625.jpg

Desert camo 4 link?:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/626.jpg

Back on all 4's!!!

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/627.jpg

Street mode!

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/628.jpg

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/629.jpg

Am I a pic whore or what?

[E.M.D.]

That thing is fucking crazy! Looks sick dude. Nice work :head: :worship: :bowtie:

[BDZ71]

:head::head:
Coming along real nice

Looks great

[Blue Z Cowboy]

Bad ass brotha, need a roommate? we can work on our trucks together:anitoof: :anitoof: , haha jk :worship:

[Dark Eternal]

Time to start setting up gears!

[willyswanter]

Waiting on my carrier bearings... Only take me 20 minutes to set the gears back in and run a pattern and check backlash.

[Dark Eternal]

have fun with taht front ARB though! :anitoof:

[willyswanter]

When I did the front gears I set it up for the ARB already such as the drilling and tapping of the housing and notching the bearing cap. Just pull the old carrier bearings, grind them out so they slip on and off of the arb, test a few shim packs, press on new bearings, drop it in and go. No problemo, gears are cake :anitoof:

[Dark Eternal]

Awsome, good thinking ahead. I just need to get the cash for my 5.13s up front now so i can put those in. Ill probably do the locker later, first priority is to get the suspension on the truck. Killed another IFS part today....

[00Silverado]

Jason, that looks bad ass, I look forward to seeing it in person... if you're still going to Gorman Sunday let me know and maybe we can roll up to the grapevine together :anitoof:

[Will]

looking good... how long have you been working on ur truck for?

[HBjeff]

damn thats awesome. where do you get all the money????

[Todd]

Very impressive work.
Will the back tires hit the top of the fender under full flex? I remember seeing that travel you have in the rear and its unbelieveable. I can't really tell that good if you bent the fend in enough to clear that.
Looks awesome though. You gonna camo out the rest of the truck now?

[willyswanter]

The bed sides will come off as soon as I hit the trail so I'm not worried about the tire hitting them. The tires clear the actual bed when flexed out so I'm not worried about that either. May Camo the whole truck, dunno, someday when I have a paint booth...

Been working on it since Dec. 27th. Christmas day was the last time I wheeled, having withdrawls or something.

Money? I dunno, just buy everything over the course of a couple years and when all the parts are laying in my bedroom floor, I put them together... I bought one shock, 2 months later, another shock, 3 months later, some coils, etc... And I find good deals on EBAY.

[Dark Eternal]

The bed sides will come off as soon as I hit the trail so I'm not worried about the tire hitting them. The tires clear the actual bed when flexed out so I'm not worried about that either. May Camo the whole truck, dunno, someday when I have a paint booth...

Been working on it since Dec. 27th. Christmas day was the last time I wheeled, having withdrawls or something.

Money? I dunno, just buy everything over the course of a couple years and when all the parts are laying in my bedroom floor, I put them together... I bought one shock, 2 months later, another shock, 3 months later, some coils, etc... And I find good deals on EBAY.
Your buying scheme sounds familure. Its torture having a parts pile though!

[willyswanter]

Ohh look lights! Everything is wired and got the fuel filler installed today. Also got the steering box back in and most of the hydro lines ran...

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/630.jpg

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/632.jpg

[Big D]

DUDE!!!!!!! ur truck is absolutely AWESOME. cant wait to see the finished product

[willyswanter]

On board air is done! Got the compressor in, tank in, regulator, water seperator/filter, 30 foot auto-recoil hose real, arb solenoid, etc. All done and working, hooked the battery up and charged the system to 130 psi in about 1.5 minutes, that includes filling the 4 gallon tank from 0psi.

Hose Real:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/633.jpg

Back shot showing tank and regulator gauges:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/635.jpg

Side shot showing tank and accys:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/634.jpg

Switches for compressor and ARB:

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/637.jpg

Compressor, cut out the carpet on the back wall to keep it from getting close to the hot compressor, although the thing stayed cool enough to touch the whole time it ran...

http://www.industrialoffroad.com/phpBB2/albums/638.jpg

[SkyRider469]

i don't remeber if you metioned it or not and searching through 23 pages doesn't sound fun right now....but what spring rates are you running on your coilovers and i didn't see any side shots of your 4 link so i wondered if u built in anti-dive

[willyswanter]

Anti-Dive would be built into front suspension, not rear suspension. Rear is anti-squat and yes it is built in, 93.4% currently but I can adjust it from 64% up to 130%. Spring rates are a 5 pound tender coil on top, 200 pound coil in the middle, and a 250 pound on the bottom.

[SkyRider469]

Anti-Dive would be built into front suspension, not rear suspension. Rear is anti-squat
your right...i had a total brain fart. hopefully i will be able to link my truck pretty soon, but my links and mounts are gonna be huge cuz mines gonna be linked for the desert.

[Dark Eternal]

your right...i had a total brain fart. hopefully i will be able to link my truck pretty soon, but my links and mounts are gonna be huge cuz mines gonna be linked for the desert.
You linking the front and back or keeping the IFS and just linking the back?

[SkyRider469]

You linking the front and back or keeping the IFS and just linking the back?
plans are to link the rear, cage it front to back and go with e camburg coilover kit in the front

MMMMM.....billet uppers
http://www.camburg.com/images/Silverado/wholekit1.jpg
http://www.camburg.com/images/extremetrucks/SilveradoLongTravel/TruckFront.jpg
http://www.camburg.com/images/extremetrucks/SilveradoLongTravel/TRUCK1.jpg