Huge IFS Lift Options

[Smith]

just as im getting set to order SFA parts a number of people have tried talking me out of it and just doing a huge IFS lift. Well what options do i have and at what price. Main reason i want to do SFA is so i can get 44's well if i went with and IFS lift i would want atleast 40's-42's. What lifts will attaing this for me even if it is in conjuction with a B-lift? THing is wouldnt an IFS lift that would clear that much almost be as much as the SFA swap once tires, labor and lift are figured in?

[Dark Eternal]

First if you want to run 44s, I wouldnt recomend running a dana 44. An IFS lift isnt taht strong either (stock half ton parts) but would be cheaper. You could get a cognito or something for 3000 or under that would clear 44s with a bodylift. Full throttle makes a 12", twisted suspension a 12" also.

[Nicholas]

I wouldn't recommend goin that big with IFS...anyhting over 38s is TOOOOO big for IFS IMO (35s is as big as i would go if i had IFS) Some of these IFS lifts may work for you...but i just wouldn't trust them too much with 42s or anything near that big...esp if u would ever think about even just playin in the sand or anyhting MILD off road...SFA will handle tires that large much better if built right...which isn't that hard, just a lil pricey...and i think it looks 10x...

[Smith]

well the D44 would only be temporary until i can find a D60 that is in good shape. The truck whether SFA or IFS i highly doubt will ever see any offroading and if it ever did it wouldnt be much of anything since there isnt any spots in ohio to offroad. FOr 3000 bucks for an IFS lift to clear 44's it would cost just as much as my SFA'ing would.

[Dark Eternal]

SFA will cost more than 3000 if you rebuild teh axles and do everything corectly.

[Dark Eternal]

tahts just the lift. You will need to pay for wheels, tires, and gears on a SFA swap as well so it kinda cancells itself out.

[Smith]

well just the initial lift itself not including rebuilding the axles and such the cost is pretty much even when its Big IFS vs SFA correct? The way i see it eathier way i do it whether its big ifs or big SFA the rear axle should be rebuilt and the front on sfa and the same should be done with and iFS lift. THe rear should be rebuilt and the front diff should be completely redone so im not too worried about the cost of rebuilding shit since eathier way i do it everything will be redone later on anyway. Make sense? lol.

Basicly this truck will be mostly built for show and i want to attain a huge lift to be able to fit 44's. Is it worth the sfa or should an IFS be done? Ive already bought the front axle and new hubs for it but the hubs arent on and i can still sell the axle. LIke i said i wnat the 44's and a huge lift plus i have a feeling that even if i do ifs now i will later on 4 link my truck and do sfa anyway once im out of school. I also want the bragging rights of SFA. DO you guys think im taking the right approach here or what

[black4x4]

I now a 10" ft will run him 3300 shipped to his door and that won't clear 42's with a bodylift. so hed have to go 12" and i bet that would run him close to 4000 sitting on his front door step.

[Dark Eternal]

rebuilding the axles is a lot more involved for a SFA, you will have to replace all bearings and seals if yoru smart, the steering (balljoints on a 44) and probably most of the brake parts. Also joints. It gets expensive fast, look at my price list so far on my SFA page. I spent 200 just on seals and bearings for my dana 60. You wouldnt have to do this if you did an IFS lift, all you would have to do is gear the axles.

[Smith]

Yeah I see what you mean DE but does all of this have to be done right at the instant of SFAing. I mean i was figuring running the D44 for a while until i find a d60 to build. I would keep the 44 until i finished rebuildint the whole thing and then finally swap it in. I mean the D44 would be good for a while wouldnt it since it would just be temproary

[Dark Eternal]

I would honestly not put it off. If your going to do it save and do it right all at once, you will save time, money and a huge headache in the long run. Even if it means waiting longer to get it done. I learned this the hard way, and thats why im replacing everything and completely rebuilding everything now. Once an axle is completely rebuilt like I am talking about it should last you for years and years to come with little to no problems. It just seems like a waste of money to buy a 44 and fix it up and gear it just to later swap in a 60. Why not use that money for the 44 and put it towards the 60, you will just get it that much sooner. See what im saying? Same thing with the IFS vs SFA lift, you say your going to 4 link it, why blow money on an IFS lift now when you will have to use a SFA to 4 link it?

[BDZ71]

...If your going to do it save and do it right all at once, you will save time, money and a huge headache in the long run....

Words to live by.

Do it right the first time. What ever way you want to go is up to you in the long run, but do it right the first time to save Headache and Money in the long run!

[zubyc]

You can wait for twisted suspension to come out with their 20" or wait for Full Throttles 16"

[Blue Z Cowboy]

thats just stupid, 20" IFS lift, what are they thinkin

[Whifflebat]

thats just stupid, 20" IFS lift, what are they thinkin


:word: I wouldn't want to be anywhere near a 1/2 ton IFS truck with 20" of lift and whatever size tires they try to stick on there.

[zubyc]

It's dumb but people are gonna buy it so why wouldn't they make it. Nothing wrong with a show truck like that.

[Dark Eternal]

Where did you see FT and Twisted were comming out with this size lift?

[zubyc]

From a friend that has their lift and talked to the owner (twisted)
Same guy told me about FT making that and when I went in a guy I know in there told me just to get their 16". That was a big no go

[Dark Eternal]

We will see if they ever hit the market. the 16" I can belive but 20" is just insane. Seems like there would be a very small markey for it, but then again people are crazy!

[zubyc]

Twisted as it is isn't a big company at all and I'm sure they will bend you over if you want one.
I don't know if I posted this before but FT charges 18k-19k for a SFA 4linked with coilovers. Absoloutely insane

[Dark Eternal]

they charge more than that, when I called they wanted 30k!

[zubyc]

Sweet lord. I heard it when I was in there and someone was telling a guy over the phone how much it was.
They charge alot but when it comes to tires, they are cheap. They quoted me for like 400 less than 4wp

[Dark Eternal]

haha didnt even know they sold tires. Yeah I laughed them off the phone when they said that. I could probably make my damn truck fly or be submersable for 30k!!

[zubyc]

I'd start my own damn lift company with that lol.
Well lets see how much cheaper they are on a different tire because I think I'm going to get 38's instead

[Dark Eternal]

what lift are you going with to clear 38s?

[willyswanter]

Hmm, 30k eh, sounds about right if your talking about sfa front conversion and front and rear 4 link... I have over 20k in my front and rear... Thats with no labor charges.

[Dark Eternal]

that was not including the axles.... just the coilovers, links etc.... Its supposidly a "bolt on" kit

[zubyc]

They said with the axles and 12-13k without them.
I have the body lift on right now and I'm planning on getting the 9.5

[Sr2003]

Here's how I look at it. 5-6k for a Huge IFS lift, or 6-8k for a SFA swap, maybe less with the d44. However, with the IFS lift, you just created a time bomb. I would trust that d44 long before that half ton IFS running gear.

[Lifted00Z71]

Theres a place down here in Phoenix that would do a D60 front with 4-link a engine cage with coil-overs out of the hood and 14bolt rear with a bed cage with reservoir shocks for 15k. Both axles are re-geared and lockers. And an Atlas II transfer case.

[zubyc]

You are saying 6-8k for a SFA if you do it yourself. I like 90% of truck owners, lack the mechanical skills to do it. I sure as hell would love to do it but it just isn't fesable so IFS is the way to go.

[Whifflebat]

I don't look at it as a matter of whether I can afford it, or if I can do it myself. I look at the safety aspect, I don't think IFS is safe with a big lift.

[Dark Eternal]

not a 20" lift on 49s its not :nono:

Ive said it a billion times before and I will again. Anything over a 36-37 will tear your ifs up real bad, anything over a 40 on half ton IFS is unsafe in my eyes.

[zubyc]

Street queen is fine that big....off road is a big :nono:

[Dark Eternal]

Not even a street queen. The stock tires are about 75 lbs or less with a wheel. Those 49s are over 250 each with wheels. Does that sound safe to you? Would you want to be in front of him if he had to stop fast because of some unseen reason? Sure the lift itself is probably very sturdy, but the stock parts arnt. I wouldnt be surprised if a tire that big snapped a control arm right off by hitting a big pot hole or curb. Just doesnt seem safe to me. There are limits and that huge is just past it.

[westcoast]

its what you do with your big ifs lift and how you drive it, will generally tell you if it will last to big tires. but with IFS I agree you probably wouldnt want to go any bigger than 40's on a stock 1/2 front.

[zubyc]

Well most big ass trucks like that aren't daily drivers because it just is too much of a PITA.

[willyswanter]

One thing I notice in my town, I see a ton of hugely lifted trucks in camera ads for sale all the time. It's like the person throws on 16" of lift and 40's then realizes it won't ride like a stock truck anymore and they sell it... Theres probably 20 new ones every week. And they are all brand new trucks...

[Nicholas]

One thing I notice in my town, I see a ton of hugely lifted trucks in camera ads for sale all the time. It's like the person throws on 16" of lift and 40's then realizes it won't ride like a stock truck anymore and they sell it... Theres probably 20 new ones every week. And they are all brand new trucks...

That happens all too often.

[zubyc]

People get to benefit from their ignorance tho so :head:

[BigGreyZ71]

dude i have a 2002 chevy half ton, i had a 9" dick cepek suspension on it, and it worked great with 39's, and never had any problems with it off-road. I am putting a 14" 3rd Coast Custom lift kit on by summer, and im going to run 46's, but of course it will be use-less off-road, but i don't care it will look badass, but if i had the money i would definitly do the SFA swap, good luck your truck is gonna be a bad machine either way

[zubyc]

Those tires are gonna be way too big for your truck...I'd put 42's at the most and even then I'd stick with 39.5
I just don't like the stuffed look