WTF is my problem

haywood · 11-06-2009, 12:37 PM

No, this isnt an open discussion.

I found a brand new type S 12 on CL the other day for $50 so i picked it up.

Cool.

Well i had a sub par quality pioneer deck and an mtx amp, so i threw together a bargain system. Well, the only type s's id ever heard were in garretts s10 a while back, and they fucking drilled. So i was expecting some decent bass and i hooked it all up.

It sounds like shit. It bottoms out on any kind of low hz, and if the gain is more than halfway, itll do it at listening volume too.

Heres my Setup.

Amp-MTX X-Thunder 600w Class D 1 Channel.

Specs Here

Subwoofer-Alpine Type S 12

Specs here

Deck-Pioneer DEH 30001B

Specs here

The subwoofer is wired at 2 Ohms, which should be optimum for that amp. Im using 4ga ground and power wires, with an inline fuse, 16ga fosgate speaker wire. The sub is in a premade regular size 12 box firing toward the bed of the truck.

On paper, this should be a decent setup right? What am i missing?

BTW, when i say its not loud, i dont mean my neighbors arent calling and complaining, i mean that my shitty 12 with a jensen amp in the trunk of my chrysler was way louder than this.

Where do i start?

gmc00z · 11-06-2009, 12:40 PM

it may have a blown voice coil, hence it only being $50

GoonRider237 · 11-06-2009, 12:42 PM

Wesley Willis should sound badass coming out of that setup.

haywood · 11-06-2009, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmc00z

it may have a blown voice coil, hence it only being $50

$50 isnt just a steal, but its decent. i thought blown vc's caused distortion.. this is like a knocking or vibrating sound. Like i thought the sub wasnt bolted in the box or something.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoonRider237

Wesley Willis should sound badass coming out of that setup.

10 points for knowing who wesley wills is.

**Denaliano** · 11-06-2009, 12:50 PM

What the fuck is your problem.

Heard several times daily.

Trevor F · 11-06-2009, 01:09 PM

borrow a sub from someone see if it does the same thing.

haywood · 11-06-2009, 01:11 PM

my roomate has a ported type r, i could try that when he gets home tonight.

Bumpers · 11-06-2009, 01:13 PM

haywood · 11-06-2009, 01:15 PM

lol i havent been able to get out to S-town yet.

Bumpers · 11-06-2009, 01:19 PM

haywood · 11-06-2009, 04:57 PM

halp

chance · 11-06-2009, 05:11 PM

stop blasting shit with piss.

haywood · 11-06-2009, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chance

stop blasting shit with piss.

bwahaahahahaha

thArf · 11-06-2009, 05:24 PM

you might be able to do the best buy okiedoke

buy a new sub same model

return the broken one

profit!

haywood · 11-06-2009, 05:25 PM

redline05 · 11-06-2009, 06:20 PM

What kind of box is the sub mounted in? The enclosure will make a huge difference. Also, amplifier settings...

haywood · 11-06-2009, 06:29 PM

its in a 3/4 mdf pre made regular size box. it fires toward the bed

Jameson · 11-06-2009, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thArf

you might be able to do the best buy okiedoke

buy a new sub same model

return the broken one

profit!

/thread

haywood · 11-07-2009, 10:55 AM

i tweaked the settings a bit, it sounds decent when i listen to rock, but it sounds like the cheap surround sound i have in my house, not what a dvc 12" sub should sound like in a reg cab. i dunno what the hell is up with it.

thArf · 11-07-2009, 12:41 PM

can you wire it to 4 ohms

redline05 · 11-07-2009, 12:42 PM

After looking at another MTX 600XD, I would turn all the settings/knobs/potentiometers to half way (except maybe bass boost). See if that improves the sound or not. Could you also take a picture of the enclosure?

haywood · 11-07-2009, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thArf

can you wire it to 4 ohms

Nope, just 8 or two i think.

Quote:

Originally Posted by redline05

After looking at another MTX 600XD, I would turn all the settings/knobs/potentiometers to half way (except maybe bass boost). See if that improves the sound or not. Could you also take a picture of the enclosure?

Yeah, brb.

haywood · 11-07-2009, 12:56 PM

haywood · 11-07-2009, 12:57 PM

looks really small in the pic, its like 16" deep at the bottom

Tomnjenn05 · 11-07-2009, 01:35 PM

try checking your "+" and "-" wires from the sub to the amp and make sure they dont cross anywhere

11-06-2009, 12:37 PM	#1
haywood Cold on 'em Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mashin' Dunes Name: Chris Age: 23 Posts: 5,646	WTF is my problem No, this isnt an open discussion. I found a brand new type S 12 on CL the other day for $50 so i picked it up. Cool. Well i had a sub par quality pioneer deck and an mtx amp, so i threw together a bargain system. Well, the only type s's id ever heard were in garretts s10 a while back, and they fucking drilled. So i was expecting some decent bass and i hooked it all up. It sounds like shit. It bottoms out on any kind of low hz, and if the gain is more than halfway, itll do it at listening volume too. Heres my Setup. Amp-MTX X-Thunder 600w Class D 1 Channel. Specs Here Subwoofer-Alpine Type S 12 Specs here Deck-Pioneer DEH 30001B Specs here The subwoofer is wired at 2 Ohms, which should be optimum for that amp. Im using 4ga ground and power wires, with an inline fuse, 16ga fosgate speaker wire. The sub is in a premade regular size 12 box firing toward the bed of the truck. On paper, this should be a decent setup right? What am i missing? BTW, when i say its not loud, i dont mean my neighbors arent calling and complaining, i mean that my shitty 12 with a jensen amp in the trunk of my chrysler was way louder than this. Where do i start?

11-06-2009, 12:40 PM	#2
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11-06-2009, 12:42 PM	#3
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11-06-2009, 01:09 PM	#6
Trevor F \/ My other ride \/ Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Glennville,GA Name: Trevor Posts: 2,853	Re: WTF is my problem borrow a sub from someone see if it does the same thing.

11-06-2009, 01:11 PM	#7
haywood Cold on 'em Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mashin' Dunes Name: Chris Age: 23 Posts: 5,646	Re: WTF is my problem my roomate has a ported type r, i could try that when he gets home tonight.

11-06-2009, 01:13 PM	#8
Bumpers KuNfUzD Z71 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tupelo Ms Name: Garrett Posts: 9,868	Re: WTF is my problem
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11-06-2009, 01:15 PM	#9
haywood Cold on 'em Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mashin' Dunes Name: Chris Age: 23 Posts: 5,646	Re: WTF is my problem lol i havent been able to get out to S-town yet.

11-06-2009, 01:19 PM	#10
Bumpers KuNfUzD Z71 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tupelo Ms Name: Garrett Posts: 9,868	Re: WTF is my problem
	Waiting on parts

11-06-2009, 04:57 PM	#11
haywood Cold on 'em Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mashin' Dunes Name: Chris Age: 23 Posts: 5,646	Re: WTF is my problem halp

11-06-2009, 05:24 PM	#14
thArf Member #1303 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: mass Name: Thaddeus Harfenschlepcht Age: 24 Posts: 5,033	Re: WTF is my problem you might be able to do the best buy okiedoke buy a new sub same model return the broken one profit!
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11-06-2009, 05:25 PM	#15
haywood Cold on 'em Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mashin' Dunes Name: Chris Age: 23 Posts: 5,646	Re: WTF is my problem

11-06-2009, 06:20 PM	#16
redline05 Money > Bitches Join Date: May 2007 Location: Arlington, TX Name: Charlie Age: 22 Posts: 1,358	Re: WTF is my problem What kind of box is the sub mounted in? The enclosure will make a huge difference. Also, amplifier settings...
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11-06-2009, 06:29 PM	#17
haywood Cold on 'em Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mashin' Dunes Name: Chris Age: 23 Posts: 5,646	Re: WTF is my problem its in a 3/4 mdf pre made regular size box. it fires toward the bed

11-07-2009, 10:55 AM	#19
haywood Cold on 'em Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mashin' Dunes Name: Chris Age: 23 Posts: 5,646	Re: WTF is my problem i tweaked the settings a bit, it sounds decent when i listen to rock, but it sounds like the cheap surround sound i have in my house, not what a dvc 12" sub should sound like in a reg cab. i dunno what the hell is up with it.

11-07-2009, 12:41 PM	#20
thArf Member #1303 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: mass Name: Thaddeus Harfenschlepcht Age: 24 Posts: 5,033	Re: WTF is my problem can you wire it to 4 ohms
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11-07-2009, 12:42 PM	#21
redline05 Money > Bitches Join Date: May 2007 Location: Arlington, TX Name: Charlie Age: 22 Posts: 1,358	Re: WTF is my problem After looking at another MTX 600XD, I would turn all the settings/knobs/potentiometers to half way (except maybe bass boost). See if that improves the sound or not. Could you also take a picture of the enclosure?
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11-07-2009, 12:56 PM	#23
haywood Cold on 'em Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mashin' Dunes Name: Chris Age: 23 Posts: 5,646	Re: WTF is my problem

11-07-2009, 12:57 PM	#24
haywood Cold on 'em Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mashin' Dunes Name: Chris Age: 23 Posts: 5,646	Re: WTF is my problem looks really small in the pic, its like 16" deep at the bottom

11-07-2009, 01:35 PM	#25
Tomnjenn05 New Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Baton rouge,la Name: Thomas Marion Posts: 1	Re: WTF is my problem try checking your "+" and "-" wires from the sub to the amp and make sure they dont cross anywhere

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