Multiple ways to double din in a 99-02, read b4 asking

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  1. Forklift

    Forklift Wanna B Jack o all Trades

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    I did this one months ago and found the pics. Im hoping this will be a sticky as I dont have the power to do so and hopefully I, or somebody else, will post up a way to use the stock bezel like Ive also done

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  2. ibe2hi

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    Re: Double din in a 99-02

    thats an 03+ bezel??
     
  3. GCncsuHD

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    Re: Double din in a 99-02

    yep


    nice job, did you install the 03+ radio frame thing also?, and what double din dash kit is that?
     
  4. nickleahy23

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    Re: Double din in a 99-02

    need to figure out how to do this as well...lookin good
     
  5. Forklift

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    Re: Double din in a 99-02

    yup, sure is
    Nope, no frame. I actually took the whole original frame out. Its a 2005 Metra kit, same one that a 03-07 would get
    thanks.
     
  6. GCncsuHD

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    Re: Double din in a 99-02

    :banghead: didnt look hard enough the first time, oh well i see the plumbers hanging strap now
     
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    Re: Double din in a 99-02

    Finished install looks nice, thought I'd add the write up I did last year in case anyone wants to approach the basket method.

    http://www.gmfullsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=77575

    I did get a complaint from someone who didn't realize the 03+ bezel would block your Power Ports and ashtray. So you want to make use of those be aware you'll have to trim the bezel or swap out your console.
     
  8. Denaliano

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    Re: Double din in a 99-02

    I'll add to this thread.

    This guy really went all the way and pulled off a close as you can get to OEM install :imo

    Credit goes to GnatGoSplat

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    Double DIN Conversion
    Installing a double-DIN stereo was not a small job. This is because 99-02 trucks are designed for a 1.5-DIN (3" tall) stereo. Double-DIN is 4" tall. There are at least 5-different ways I've seen other people perform a 2-DIN conversion. The easiest and most common way is to use a 03-06 radio/climate control bracket and bezel and modifying the bracket and climate control to fit. The main benefit to this method is all the work is invisible since nothing is done to the bezel. All the other ways involve difficult fabrication. Only after purchasing a 03 radio bracket and bezel did I decide I really didn't like how it looks:
    - The 03 climate control opening is too tall for the 99 climate control, it also doesn't have the right curvature, the opening is also too narrow partially obscuring the OFF and DEFROST labels.
    - The 3/4" of blank space below the airbag disable switch looks cheesy, you can tell they took the old design and just stretched it out on the bottom like an afterthought.
    - I didn't like the idea of modifying the climate control because I might want to switch to the automatic one someday, then nobody would buy my old one if it's all chopped up.
    - I didn't like the idea of chopping the lighter jack door and ashtray door to clear the larger 03 bezel.

    So after careful measurement of my existing bezel, I decided it was plenty tall enough for double-DIN and could be modified. If I screwed it up, no big deal, I could always go back to the 03 bracket/bezel method.

    Here are pics of how it was done...




    First, I removed the old HU. It was a JVC KD-AVX2. Very nice, for a single-DIN unit.

    Then I made some brackets cut out of sheetmetal using an angle grinder/cutting disc. I used a hammer and pliers to bend them. I reused the plastic side brackets from the single-DIN installation kit.


    It fits! It snaps right in. Well, I had to cut and bend a metal bracket behind it with my angle grinder first. Since I had a road trip to take, I cut a big rough hole into the bezel so it could go back on temporarily until I had time to make it look good. I cut the notch out of the upper left of the opening later, so I could use those scrap pieces... more on that later.

    I debated doing this next step, which is lowering the climate control. At its current position, the trim ring wouldn't fit on the radio. Since I was planning to make the radio opening in the bezel exactly the same dimensions as the 03-06 factory radio opening, I would need the trim ring to fill in the space. I also thought lowering the climate control would make the overall appearance more balanced and make it so I could have a decent sized bar across the bottom of the HU to look more factory. So, that was when I decided after measuring a hundred times to lower the climate control exactly 4.0mm.


    To remove the bracket involved drilling out 2 rivets in the back (not fun) and removing 4 7mm hex screws. I cut out the climate control mounting areas using a Dremel and used aluminum tape to hold them in their new position.


    Pic on the left shows the aluminum tape. I used JB Weld to permanently bond the mounting holes to their new positions. Then I sanded it smooth, but had to keep reminding myself not to go overboard because it's not a visible part!


    Left pic shows the trim ring fits on the HU, with 2mm to spare between the trim ring and climate control. Right pic is where I started to build the radio opening. I could have made the opening fit tighter to the HU, but I decided to use the exact dimensions of the 03-06 radio opening. The reason behind this is I will probably want to swap out the HU for a new one in the future so I wanted the opening to be a universal size rather than only fitting a particular model. I had cut out the 1.5 DIN opening completely intact, so all I had to do was section it horizontally to shorten it about 1/4". I then took those pieces I cut out and glued them to the vertical sections. Then those little scrap pieces I cut out from the bezel earlier were used to extend the height to exactly the correct height. Since the bezel is made of PC (polycarbonate), I used Tenax7R (methylene chloride) as the glue. It isn't really a glue, but a solvent. It solvent-welds the pieces together for maximum strength.


    Next step was to cut out the climate control opening. I then took the climate control opening and solvent-welded it to the newly assembled radio opening. A ton of measuring with calipers, Dremeling and test-fitting involved in this step to get the divider bar exactly uniform.


    Left pic is test fitting the new openings into the dash. A lot of fine Dremel work involved to get the new openings to recess into the bezel. After some very careful test-fitting with it installed, I used aluminum tape to hold the openings in their exact position. After this, I solvent welded a lot of scrap pieces into the gaps to hold everything together. Then to fill the gaps, I took all the shavings and smaller scrap pieces and soaked them in Tenax7R in an attempt to make a liquid polycarbonate sludge. It was difficult to work with because methylene chloride evaporates real fast and the best consistency I could get out of my polycarbonate sludge is like super chunky peanut butter.


    Eventually, I did make it work. Sanded, made more chunky sludge, brushed more Tenax7R on it, repeat... eventually it started to look pretty good. It took a lot of wet-sanding with 220 and 320 grit. I used an old 9V battery and AAA battery as sanding blocks! Left pic shows the finished product. Since the sludge was chunky and dried so quickly, I was left with some pinholes and tiny cracks. It was difficult to get polycarbonate sludge smooth and liquid enough to fill them, so I used a very thin coat of JB Weld to fill in pinholes and surface cracks. Pic on the right shows after I sanded the JB Weld smooth.


    Last step was to paint with flat black. To duplicate the original texture, I painted from about a 16" distance to give it a slight orange peel. It came out real well. The finished product on the left, and installed on the right. I couldn't get a good daylight pic, but the camera flash does bring out some detail (and dirt, and fingerprints, ugh).

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    Re: Double din in a 99-02

    So what the best choice for an in dash dvd player for a 2000 LS Ext Cab 4x4 that is completly stock?
     
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    Re: Double din in a 99-02

    i believe you can also buy the 03-06 inner parts that the radio and a/c controls slide into. i will be doing this mod sometime in the future once i buy my alpine w505 or pioneer d3. or whatever is the best you can buy at that time lol
     
  11. Trevor F

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    Re: Double din in a 99-02

    So can i buy the 03 dash bucket and trim it mount it and the DD will lock into that? Then can i run my stock 99 bezel or does it have to be modified?
     
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    Re: Double din in a 99-02

    The bezel will have to be modified. How much will depend on the unit you're installing. Some (like Pioneer) are a bit smaller, where as others (Like Alpine/Kenwood 7" screens) use every bit of a DD opening.
     
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    Re: Double din in a 99-02

    thinking about the pioneer avh 4000dvd so 6.1 screen.

    think i could get away with the 99-02 bezel? Also when i order the 03 bucket i assume ill need an 03 dash kit for the In dash install?
     
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    Re: Double din in a 99-02

    would that work for a 2000 chevy tahoe thinkin of gettin pioneer avh 4000 dvd also..
     
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    Re: Double din in a 99-02

    if its the NBS dash yeah
     
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    Re: Double din in a 99-02

    im doin mine as we speak..god damn pioneer 4100 is huge..i woulda had it done tonight, but i had to do so much sanding to make it fit..i bought a bezel that was already done for a DD..the width is perfect, but the height was off cuz the screen is huge..worst part is that since it slides out for the cd i need more clearance top and bottom..ill have a small gap, but it should look clean..

    im also doin the plumbing strap..should work nicely..might run a double piece on the edges just for strength
     
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    Re: Double din in a 99-02

    I guess ill just add to this thread..I got a 99-02 bezel and it was molded for a double din already.

    I had to make it taller due to the fact that the pioneer 4100 slides out for the cd and it hit a little bit. I also used plumbing strap for mounting it.

    I ripped the radio bucket out, and copied the sides to mount to. I ran a piece of strap straight back to support the radio. I then only used the bottom mounting holes on the radio. Got it bent like I needed and screwed it in.

    Its very solid and was fairly simple to do. The hardest part was getting it to line up with the bezel so it would open..if I had one that didnt move, it would have been much simplier, but the 7" screen is great.

    It may not be the cleanest, but its solid and it works for me. the screen sits perfectly flush with the dash. Remember this is an 99-02 bezel not a 03+..there wouldnt have bee enough room for me to use a mounting kit front like forklift did. I need to touch up the paint and align it just a little better, but its not bad for now.

    Bezel i bought. had to make it about 1/4" taller to accomodate the screen, then another 1/8" to clear when it opens
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    Straps that mock the orig. radio bucket
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    Strap to support the deck. screwed into the metal in the rear. I cut the mounting "pins" off the heat control and just put a bolt through the big hole on the side. worked great.
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    Strap on the side of the radio. I ended up not using straps on the top, only the bottom holes, but u get the picture
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    Mounted in. I had to bend the brackets once it was screwed in. theres only so many positions you can screw into. a flat sheet might have worked better, but then you have to drill your own holes.
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    All in.
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    Re: Double din in a 99-02

    Very nice panel piece!
    good install
     
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    Re: Double din in a 99-02

    If i use the 03+ bezel can i still use my cig lighter section underneath? will it still open up etc. for a 99 nbs.
     
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    Re: Double din in a 99-02

    barely, ashtray wont
     

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