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  1. Donnie

    Donnie A walking ball of wax

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    Where do you guys get your paint and what kind do you get? I'm getting a spray gun and I'm going to re-paint my interior pewter but I have no idea of what to get to match the outside or even what brand. Any places online?
     
  2. BAGGEDN20SSIERRA

    BAGGEDN20SSIERRA JC PAINT WORKZ

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    Call Your Local Automotive Paint Supply Co. And Tell Them Your Paint Code For Your Vehicle. (if Its The Same Color). Then Get Enough Paint And Clear Coat To Do The Whole Vehicle Interior. And Go At It.
     
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    id go to local shop and take your truck there for sure. because sometimes there are several alternates to each color when they get your paint code. then they can take different samples out to your truck to see what alternate it really is.

    i used sherman williams paint.
     
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    you need a different gun for primer, topcoat, and clearcoat. you dont want to take the chance of getting some paint in the clear or primer in the topcoat, or you will ruin the whole job.
     
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    SuthernFlames316 Gotta be Lifted

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    Coming from experience, PPG Deltron Basecoat (DBC) paint is an excellent paint. The basecoats seem to adhere so much better, as well as look better, than Dupont, Nason, etc. You will definitly be happy with it. Which color are going for?

    As far as clear, a company called Rubberseal has some of the most affordable and high quality clears out right now. Most of themm are 2 coat clears, and they buff like butter. They also have great UV protection, which is important if you do any kinf of interior painting.

    If you do prime, Rubber Seal had awesome primers. You can make fuckin fenders out of that shit lol. However if you are repaining the same color, espescially the factory color, you wont need to prime. Just sand the whole area with 400, and the factory base will be ready for new paint.
     
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    BAGGEDN20SSIERRA JC PAINT WORKZ

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    I Would Deff. Use The Same Clear Type That Your Using Base. So If You Like Using Ppg Base Please Use Ppg Clear Been Known For Newbies That Chemy Reaction And Bad Problems. From Experience I Have Sprayed. House Of Kolor, Ppg, Diamont, Sikkens, Dupont, Sherwin Williams. I Spray Diamont On A Reg Basis For All My Projects Unless Customer Wants Diff. Its Affordable And Easy To Spray.... Now Custom Jobs I Go With House Of Kolor, But Its Pricey.
     
  7. RedXray

    RedXray Dwell set @ 28º to 32º

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    I know exactly what your talking about mixing different brand paints.
    It can lift and wrinkle and you have to scrape all that shit back off.
    lot of time and materals wasted! Seen it many many times myself.

    Diamont is a kick ass system from BASF
    ("polyester base" I think If my memory serves me correctly)
    It drys a real flat look until you lay the clear on...
    then it explodes with gloss and flows super nice.
     
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    i really like diamont, house of kolor, and limco
     
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    thanks for the responses I'm learning a lot :head:
     
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    RedXray Dwell set @ 28º to 32º

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    If your getting a cheaper spray gun it will be good to spray small parts and single panels.

    If your thinking of spraying complete paint jobs I would recommend buying a
    nice gun around the $300 to $400 range. The sub $100 guns will not deliver
    enough paint to get real quality work on a complete job... especially on a hot summer day.

    There is a learning curve when it comes to choosing the correct thinners/reducers.
    You choose a fast drying reducer when the ambient temps are cooler.
    You choose a slow drying reducer when the temps are warmer.
    And sometimes a mix of the two to control the flow and drying time.

    Then you have paint viscosity... this is the amount of reducer and or catalyst
    you mix with the color or clear. Some paints can be reduced up to 100%
    That is 1 part color and 1 part reducer. But most paint is somewhere around 50%
    That would be 2 parts color to 1 part reducer. Each brand/type may be
    different so read the cans label or refer to the paints specific Tech Bulletin
    for reduction requirements.

    Then you have your gun technique of learning the correct stroke with the guns
    speed and distance. After you perfect the handling of the gun you learn how to
    use the other hand. There are places on a auto that you cant reach with
    just one hand... like the top area above the windshield... for good coverage
    you need to switch hands.

    It's all in the eye... watch as the paint flows on the panel
    you will see when it's loading to much and wants to run or sag.
    When this happens you speed up the stroke and pull back the
    distance of the gun to the panel. When the paint looks dry...
    slow down the stroke and or get closer to the panel.

    It's in the ear... when paint is mixed to heavy the sound from the
    gun sounds like a squeaking pitch and the volume of paint coming
    from the gun is limited... add more reducer and check the guns vent
    hole for clogging (the cups vent will clog easily especially shooting primer)

    I would ask painters at body shops if they have any old paint leftovers... small
    amounts left in the can after jobs are usually thrown out to keep the clutter down.
    These will make good practice to spray random stuff just to get your feet wet with the gun.
     
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    hell yea matt, good shit
     
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    i run my guns between 28 and 32 psi, you dont want too high of a psi or too low of one either, also be sure to wear a NIOSH certified respirator because of the isocyinates in the paints.
     
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    SuthernFlames316 Gotta be Lifted

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    Yes, it is the smart thing to do. I was just stating that Rubber Seal makes really good clears. As you states , most of the time when you mix products-shit happens. However, the only product I do mix is RS and PPG bases.
    Just whatever he does, he doesnt need to purchase Omni! Omni and custom do not mix. They are notorious for fuck ups. They even have reactions with mild adhesives on Fineline tape. PPG mildest wax/grease remover will take the base off!
     
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    im glad this is a sticky now, also buy you a tack cloth and lightly wipe down the area to be painted, this will get rid of all the dust and lint so you wont have that shit in your paint.
     
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    are you guys talking about going to a local bodyshop to get the paint? or a the actual paint company's store?
     
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    RedXray Dwell set @ 28º to 32º

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    Most Base and Clears specify 55 PSI for complete jobs.
    You may get away with spraying a single panel or small parts with that PSI.

    Now Lacquers spray with a lower pressure around 35 to 45 but most Lacquers
    are being phased out because of high VOCs (volatile organic compounds)
     
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    hes only spraying his dash, that psi would be fine.
     
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    Yep just fine
     
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    RedXray Dwell set @ 28º to 32º

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    I sprayed this car in Diamont Base/Clear (BASF)

    I found this 1984 Crown Victory that someone had cut down a tree and it landed
    on the frontend. I replaced a fender, hood, windshield and sprayed it California Gold Metallic.

    This car in 1999 only had 21,000 miles on it and I swear it was owned by a
    "little ol lady" her name was Dotty. She was just sick about the dumb ass that
    was doing tree work had cut down the tree and damaged her car.
    "If I knew he was working that day I would have parked my car at the street"

    Her husband sold me the car for $600 and it was like a new car. Never smoked
    in and it was fully loaded and everything worked perfect This is one of the best
    riding cars I have ever driven..

    I fixed it and gave it to my son for his graduation. I know young folks like a sporty ride but
    at the time I just couldn't afford the buy him a new car. He drove it a couple
    years and got $4000 on trade for a new Chrysler Convertible.

    Check the reflections of the palm trees in the deck lid...
    Diamont is a good quality paint system.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Guys, check out www.autobodysupply.net. I got HOK a quart of black shirmin metallic basecoat, quart of HOK clear, quart of HOK reducer, and a pint of HOK hardner for $104 shipped. I think thats a dam good price :guns:
     

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