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Dood! That pedal just bolts in! You did not have to take your dash down. Kudos to finding the clutch dust shield. I was worried about finding that part when I did my swap.

BTW heck of a deal.
 

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Actually, I did have to take the dash down because my truck didn't have the pedal brace that is welded next to the column. I found the part number for the mount and we had to weld it in, then bolt the pedal in. Having the dash down also made the wiring and brake pedal swap easier.

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Well, it's in. Now it's time for Turkey dinner. Still have a few things left to do, update later.
 

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Actually, I did have to take the dash down because my truck didn't have the pedal brace that is welded next to the column. I found the part number for the mount and we had to weld it in, then bolt the pedal in. Having the dash down also made the wiring and brake pedal swap easier.

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Well, it's in. Now it's time for Turkey dinner. Still have a few things left to do, update later.
Hmm. Well that is something new to me. My truck is a 95, and my clutch pedal assy just bolted right in. Also, I was able to use the existing brake pedal. The NV4500 > 4L60E for sure.
 

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Hmm. Well that is something new to me. My truck is a 95, and my clutch pedal assy just bolted right in. Also, I was able to use the existing brake pedal. The NV4500 > 4L60E for sure.
Yeah, I'm wondering if they started to put those in later on as a cost saving measure, since it would be easier to run every truck with than only some. Who knows. As far as the brake pedal, i didn't want to have the large automatic pedal (wanted it to look factory). You could cut your pedal and get the smaller pad if you ever wanted to. And yes, NV4500 >>>>>> 700R4 as well.

Love it!!
cool swap dude let us know how it turned out
Thanks guys!

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Well, here is the update from today. We got the trans shift linkage all worked up. For those who have asked how my linkage is, here is the best picture ever: outside of the truck. Basically all that is done is to move the arm over via a longer pivot point. It has a stepped portion to clear the trans as well. Obviously the pass side has to be supported of the trans.



I got the floor cut for the shifter, as well as an additional hole to make the install MUCH easier. When we too the trans from the parts rig the shift tower was so tall that we kept getting hung up on the trans tunnel, and ended up just pulling the sheetmetal back. I decided then I'd make another hole and build a screw on cover for it, that way the trans can slide right in.



Then we got the trans on a chunk of wood and strapped it to the floor jack. Don't want 200lbs of cast iron falling on you.


After it's in. :big_banana_Dance:



While dad put the drivelines and stuff back, I worked on the interior side of things. Once the trans was in place I located the shifter trim ring, drilled the holes and bolted it together. After everything fit, I put the carpet back and started the re-assembly of everything else: Trim, Dash, I/P, seat, etc.




This is what the interior now looks like with two sticks :crazy: Notice the new (and much more awkward and annoying) location of the cupholders.



Then, the test drive. First problem I encountered was the speedo/cruise not working and my brake warning light was stuck on. After about and hour of thinking, switching the speed sensor, etc, I realized the RWAL (rear wheel antilock) and speedo share a fuse. While I was wrestling the wiring around I must have dislodged it...... :flame: But yeah, whats a project without a challenge. So after that, on to screwing around in it. Oh it's fun. Way too fun. Trans shifts great, syncros work flawlessly, etc. 1st gear is a beast, particularly in low range. I can't want to go play offroad. I also got it up to freeway speeds, also worked great. It's definatly noticable there is a manual down there, but only if your actually paying attention to it. After driving around for about 45mins the trans was up around 140 degrees if anyone was wondering.

All in all, everything works great, and the swap went very smoothly (no trips to the part store, nothing broken, etc). I'll be driving it around some more tomorrow, can't wait. As of now, the only thing left to give away this truck was originally an automatic is the steering column, but that will be changed eventually.
 

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Your inclinometer is awesome

Awesome that its working great
lol, it's gotta be outta a jap truck, I snagged one from the junkyard 10 years ago.


Thanks for the detail in the swap. I was just telling the GF yesterday as we drove the Blazer to my parents that w/160K my 4L60E has a short life left and want to do a swap.

This will come in handy. I'll start gathering parts now, wanna make a checklist for us?
 

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As far as the brake pedal, i didn't want to have the large automatic pedal (wanted it to look factory). You could cut your pedal and get the smaller pad if you ever wanted to. And yes, NV4500 >>>>>> 700R4 as well.
Mine swap looks great to be honest. However, as far as looking factory, one look at the dash or column will tell that an auto came in the truck. Ah well. Go do some granny launches now. Those are fun!
 

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Looks good dude!

Never really got into manuals. ive driven jeeps and old ford grain trucks manual...but those arent too fun!
 

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Your inclinometer is awesome

Awesome that its working great
Looks clean man, nice job.

Thanks!

lol, it's gotta be outta a jap truck, I snagged one from the junkyard 10 years ago.


Thanks for the detail in the swap. I was just telling the GF yesterday as we drove the Blazer to my parents that w/160K my 4L60E has a short life left and want to do a swap.

This will come in handy. I'll start gathering parts now, wanna make a checklist for us?
The clinomemter is out of a Nissan Terrano (j-spec pathfinder). Well, most of what you need is on the first pages, but I can make a detailed part list (including a few part numbers) once I'm back at my house next week.

Mine swap looks great to be honest. However, as far as looking factory, one look at the dash or column will tell that an auto came in the truck. Ah well. Go do some granny launches now. Those are fun!
Yeah, eventually I'll ditch the column. As far as my dash goes, the 88-94 style used a black blockout plate that fits in place of the PRND321 indicator, as opposed to the entirely different cluster 95-98 trucks use. And yes, granny low makes tire spin easy.

Looks good dude!

Never really got into manuals. ive driven jeeps and old ford grain trucks manual...but those arent too fun!
OLD truck transmission are much different than this one. You can defintaley tell it's a big 1-ton transmission (not super fast shifting) but it's not like the old SM465s and old ford granny lows in the 60-70s.

Is that thing on top of the dash stock. It looks like it does tilt, lean and some gauge. What gauge?
As I said above, it's from a Nissan Terrano (j-spec pathfinder). It fits the dash very well. They come with the clinometer and an altimeter, however i removed the altimeter and installed a transmission temp gauge in place of it.

The only manuals that Ive driven that were fun are T56s. Truck manuals are like rowing a boat.[/QUOTE]

You know, i've driven quite a few manuals, and this is far changed from the SM465. The throw isn't huge, but it's definatley not a T56. It's about the right combination for the feel of my truck, since it's not much of a sports truck anyway.
 

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I fucking hate you :ninja:



I want soooooo bad :crazy: great build and thread man.
 

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Thanks man, I enjoyed the swap. I really like figuring all these things out and working with my Dad on them.
 

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Well, it made it across the state, no problems. Got about the same fuel mileage. Trans ran 150 degrees the entire time, which is good. There is a little gear noise at highway speeds, but i've heard that the non-OEM gear lube may do that. I also had to shim my starter out a little more to quiet it up; there is apparently a different starter for the manual trans, although mine seems to work just fine now.
 

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I starred this email, I'll join up that forum I have 5-6 how to threads on my 88 that would definatly contribute over there.
 

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Well, just a little update on the trans. Last week I bought one of the last pieces, the sound isolator for the shift boot. They PN for the 92-94 style trans was no longer available so I grabbed the 95+ style and cut some of it to fit my shift tower. Basically it's a 1/2" thick foam block that goes under the shift boot. It made a huge difference in the sound comming from the trans area (I could hear road noise and gears quite noticably, which isn't surprising since the shift boot isn't very thick).

The trans has been working perfectly, and now has over 2,000 miles on it and has been across the state 4 times. Running it at highway speeds yields a consistant temp of 150 degrees. I'm also happy with my clutch choice, as it works very well and is actually quite easy to drive.

Next week I'll be taking the truck out wheelin with a few friends, so it'll be the first trip out with the manual and I'm very excited to test out the very low gearing I now have!
 
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