[Mr. 960]

Long story short. Replaced rear drum shoes on my 06 Sierra. Original AC Delco were like $200.00. I looked around for a more cost effective replacement. Everything i found or looked at was China. Settled on Napa premium chinese orgainc shoes. I had the drums turned, sanded the shoes with 60 grit, cleaned them with brake clean. The damn things sound like metal to metal. Sounds worse then a freight train stopping. Hate it, and am fed up with this shit! What have you all tried that does not squeak??? The rear shoes are not the easiest to replace on this truck and I don't want to do this silly shit again!

Mr. 960

 

[KennyR]

Original ac delcos.

But to be honest I had a 97 sierra that I put Bosch rotors and pads on and they never squeaked. Only did these on my 97 because those trucks ate brake pads and factory pads are a lot of money.


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[BOO5TED]

I've used NAPA in the past and haven't had any issues :shrug:

 

[Tim W]

could have ordered AC delco durastops from the dealer, they're closer to 125.00

 

[beckmand78]

Ive never heard of sanding the shoes. Ive also used cheap shoes plenty of times with no noise at all

 

[casz71]

I've got the autozone lifetime shoes on mine and they don't make any noise

 

[Mr. 960]

Ive never heard of sanding the shoes. Ive also used cheap shoes plenty of times with no noise at all

you sand them with 80 grit sandpaper to remove any glazing or smooth spots on the shoes. I think it is not Napa, I like to support the smaller independent stores. I think just every thing is now being made in China resulting in loss production control. I think it is just cheap material. I'm ordering the AC delco professional for RockAuto for 127.00. I just hate dealing with that stupid horse shoe clamp.

 

[zrxkawboy]

Ive never heard of sanding the shoes.

Me either. Always just turned the drums, cleaned 'em, and installed the new shoes.

Which grade of shoes were they (did the part # start with TS-, SS-, AE-, etc)?

 

[Mr. 960]

TS-10855 60.00. I have a 64 galaxie 500 with 4wheel drum brakes. I have an old timer reline my old shoes with asbestos linings, no sounds at all. That may be a last resort for my Sierra.

Mr. 960

 

[BOO5TED]

TS-10855 60.00. I have a 64 galaxie 500 with 4wheel drum brakes. I have an old timer reline my old shoes with asbestos linings, no sounds at all. That may be a last resort for my Sierra.

Mr. 960

:gasp: DNW

 

[zrxkawboy]

TS-10855 60.00.

Hmmm...that part # is $34.20 (cash customer) at our local NAPA. TS is NAPA's lowest grade of pads/shoes.

 

[Mr. 960]

Hmmm...that part # is $34.20 (cash customer) at our local NAPA. TS is NAPA's lowest grade of pads/shoes.

Well I guess they shoved me in the ass. Can you tell me a bit more? Perhaps the friction material? I guess this is why they make tons of annoying embarrassing noise. I'm gonna spring for the ac delco 171-0903 from rock auto. They cost 127.00 but it is worth every penny hopefully to not make my truck sound like a beater. I'm just dreading that damn stupid horseshoe spring!:biggun:

 

[zrxkawboy]

I wish I could. I work part-time at the local NAPA, but only about one Saturday a month anymore, so I don't keep up real well with all the product lines.

When looking up brake pads/shoes, there are generally quite a few options. It will always say what the OEM friction material was (ceramic, organic, semi-metallic), but may offer more choices in addition. For example, it might say that ceramic is OEM, and list three grades of ceramic pads, but then offer a couple choices in organic pads that will fit, too.

If you go to napaonline.com, type in your zip code and select your local store, it will tell you the price of the parts at that store.

 

[Mr. 960]

well, I finally couldn't take the noise any more so I tried a radical idea. Going done a hill, clear of traffic, I put the truck in neutral and applied the e-brake and did an e-brake stop. What I noticed: truck or brakes no longer squeaked, wheels did not lock, but took the truck about 1/2 block to stop. Squeaking stopped for a day, then resurfaced, but not as loud. I'm wondering if I need to adjust the shoes out more? Also truck stopped smooth during e-brake stop.

Mr. 960

 

[Ravine]

I used $80 wagners from rock auto. Never a peep with OE drums not even turned. Stops just fine.

 

[Gator]

Do not sand new pads or shoes! They need to bed in and you're screwing up that whole process. Scuffing up older pads n shoes is fine as they've been through the bedding process and are broken in.

Try this to help fix your issue. Go at a steady pace at 50mph and slow to 10mph while hard on the brakes. As much as you can without lockin them up. Do this 5-7 times. Also, before hand make sure the drums are adjusted correctly otherwise the brakes will not work effectively.

 

[zrxkawboy]

Do not sand new pads or shoes! They need to bed in and you're screwing up that whole process. Scuffing up older pads n shoes is fine as they've been through the bedding process and are broken in.

Try this to help fix your issue. Go at a steady pace at 50mph and slow to 10mph while hard on the brakes. As much as you can without lockin them up. Do this 5-7 times. Also, before hand make sure the drums are adjusted correctly otherwise the brakes will not work effectively.

True, many people do not bed-in new pads, and it really needs to be done. Your method is similar to what I do. The only thing I will add, is to allow a few minutes of cooling time between braking cycles.

 

[Gator]

Driving down the road cools them enough.

 

[Mr. 960]

argh! The saga continues. I'm waiting to save up a little money to buy the premium AC Delco shoes. Man these fucken cheap shoes squeak like mad. This morning I once again took my drums off. This time I did NOT sand the drums, or shoes. I did not use any brake clean. I examined every thing carefully. I noticed some metal flakes embedded in the lining material. I removed it with a small awl. I just wiped the shoes down with a clean rag, and did the same for the drums. I then adjusted the shoes out a bit. Took it for a drive; no squeaking heard, although I can bet my left nut it will come back! I've tried the 50 mph and hard stopping a few times also, at this rate I will wear out my font pads too. Any other ideas?

Any good disk brake conversion kits out there? Thinking of buying a disk brake rear axle and swapping the parts over to mine, as my truck only has 64,000 babied miles and I've serviced the rear diff twice in the time I've had it.

Mr. 960

 

[BOO5TED]

If you swap the parts over remember to get the ebrake cable, they are different between the disk and drums.