They are not that bad. I bought them because I need new tires and I thought it would be pointless to put new tires on rims im just gonna get rid of anyways. I got the rims and tires for 900 bucks with new tires and not a scratch on them. I can sell the stocks for a lil more than that, so in the long run im gonna make money, and get new rims an tires. Is that reason enough fuckers........lol :tongue: Im gonna lower the truck in a few months, and then sell these wheels or trade for 24's..there not that bad, ive seen worse and if you dont like them why even buy them, even if it was a great deal