[roostinyfz]

Finally got an 8" CST lift with a CCM spacer put on my NNBS truck with the Blitzkrieg (GMR) upper control arms. I thought this combo would work, I had to get the truck on the ground to put weight on the suspension to even bolt up the outer heim tie rods. As it sits now they are bolted up, but pretty much are binding the tie rods because the heim joint is maxed out and will bind them way worse with any down travel. Is there a solution for this, like perhaps a tie rod kit with a heim joint on the inner tierod? :hmm:

I know I could put a smaller spacer on it but then my 37x14 BFG's won't fit and then I would have to go to a body lift, which I am not excited about. If anybody has any ideas let me know and as soon as somebody gives me a good fix for it I will post up pics!:tongue:

 

[Jameson]

Damn I thought the HEIMs would help with the spacer. I'm running the 8" Fabtech w/ FOA Coilovers cranked to 10.5" and GMR UCAs and was hoping that HEIMs would solve the shitty TREs I got now. I'd run a 1.5" BL though if I were you. I love mine, can't tell it's there. Pics of your truck plz.

 

[Alden]

Heims have slightly smaller operating angles than ball joints, but that wouldn't be enough to cause binding. Something is wrong.

Can you flip the tie rod to mount it on the opposite side of the knuckle?

 

[jmcgriff19]

Can you post some pics of how the tie rods look?

 

[roostinyfz]

Heims have slightly smaller operating angles than ball joints, but that wouldn't be enough to cause binding. Something is wrong.

Can you flip the tie rod to mount it on the opposite side of the knuckle?

Well this is what I am thinking about doing, but the heims are double sheer, and the upper connection to the spindle is the smaller one, and I would need to mount the tie rods above the upper connection making it significantly weaker. I will post up pics later this afternoon.
Thanks

 

[roostinyfz]

Can you post some pics of how the tie rods look?

Here's some pics

Look at this side. This one is already bending due to the bind!!

A teaser, I still have a lot of stuff I need to get done this week on it.

 

[Jameson]

damn dude that sucks. Id call CST ASAP...Sick ass truck though, Im loving those tires!! How much those run?

 

[Jameson]

what is that exact tire size?? KM2??

37x14.xxRxx

 

[JMC]

Might could PM Taylorbridges35 for his input. Maybe the spacer is just too much and I'm sure that would be CST's "out".

 

[Jameson]

Might could PM Taylorbridges35 for his input. Maybe the spacer is just too much and I'm sure that would be CST's "out".

True...

 

[DirtMafia]

holy shit batman, those angles look worse then my CV's

 

[Jameson]

holy shit batman, those angles look worse then my CV's

His CV angles :think: ? ...or the angle of his HEIMs??

 

[DirtMafia]

heims....

 

[JoeR]

looks like the spacer is causing that problem to me, they are pretty much drooped out when sitting on the ground

 

[budrun]

It looks to me that you need that black spacer to go under your missalignment spacers, instead of on top. That would cut down the angle I think. Swap it and report back. Also you have pleanty of threads on those bolts you can make a shim to go under the missalignment spacers so the tie tod raises and would not be on such an angle.

 

[JoeR]

It looks to me that you need that black spacer to go under your missalignment spacers, instead of on top. That would cut down the angle I think. Swap it and report back

that isnt a spacer, its a double shear mount for the tierod end, comes off the spindle and makes it stronger than just a single shear mount

 

[roostinyfz]

They are a 335/55/22. They measure out to be about 36.5 x 14 though.

Yea the best fix I am thinking is to drop it down to 8" and run a body lift. But was hoping to put the 1 1/2 inch zone body lift on here to have it sit at about 11 1/2 inches of lift later. So I'm not wanting to drop it to 8 and then run a 3" BL very bad.

I was thinking, what if I took the top TRE support on the spindle itself (think double sheer) and actually cutting it and moving it 2" upward on the spindle. Getting a longer bolt and some sort of spacer to move the heim joint up 2" and that would solve my problem, if that makes any sense. Just not sure if that would negatively affect the geometry at all.

Anybody know anyone that might be able to fab something like that up here in Phoenix?? Or if that would even work?

 

[JoeR]

im not sure that would work. the mount for the tie rod on the new spindle is in the same spot as it should be stock, moving it would cause bump steer and your geometry to be off. id pull the spacer and run a bodylift on it

 

[Jameson]

im not sure that would work. the mount for the tie rod on the new spindle is in the same spot as it should be stock, moving it would cause bump steer and your geometry to be off. id pull the spacer and run a bodylift on it

:word: just run a 3" BL and get some AMP steps to hide the frame. Still be at about 11"

 

[Jameson]

So Im guessing us Fabtech guys are fucked as far as HEIM setups go huh?