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I scored the pioneer avh-p4000dvd brand new off ebay for 300.00 shipped. Got installed yesterday and I'm impressed. I've always been an Alpine fan but heard lots of good things about pioneer. I have a friend trying to sell a Clarion Dbl Din with built in bluetooth thats less than a year old. I sold it to him through the stereo shop I work at part time. I think he wants 450.00. PM me if interested.