They are better than most people say... if you look at the pic in my sig i had 38" TSL's on it but i blew one out and put these 40's on there. The TSL's are yes, better in the mud. The way i see it is if you have a tire like the TSL (especially cause mine were skinny) you dig down and pull through. But with my STS's, when i put the hammer down in the mud and keep them spinning it almost feels like im just floating across. They are a good tire for the weekend wheeler :imoDirtyBlackZ71 said:how'd those tires perform? How you liking them?