problems with w4m tunes worried me so i decided to get a nelson tune instead and im really happy with it

 

I put my W4M tune in about a week ago and have had no problems with it... I smoked my tranny two nights ago because my nitrous wasnt set up rigth and I sprayed a 125 shot right through the 1-2 shift. the chutch pack went bye bye ....

 

Same problem here except mine was from 2nd to 3rd took tune out and put stock back in and ordered from someone else. I will not bash anybody but I will post the results from the second tune. All I got at the track with the first tune was 1/10th faster and the same speed as before the tune, not to mention the normal driving condition was wierd and no kickdown after 60mph. Like you said you get what you pay for.

 

did you remove TM?

 

Sorry for your bad experience matt....I loved my W4M but only enjoyed it for a few months...good luck with the new tune.

 

Yeah...I hate to hear that man. My W4M tune is great. Have had absolutely no problems with it at all. Have you tried calling Jesse? I've heard that is the best way to get in touch with him rather than by email. Hope you get it all worked out...

 

I had no problem with my tune for my CC but my Tahoe is taking for ever to get tuned. I sent it to him over a month ago and still nothing

Sent him a spare PCM and my Tahoe PCM so he could copy the image. I have my PCM back but still no tune.

I really hope I don't run into any issues with slipping shifts.

 

I got nothing but good things to say about W4M. Except that I will need new tires sooner now.

 

Interesting new development. I sent my W4M PCM to Westers in Massachusetts for a retune today. I asked Butch..

Now, will I have to go through the security and crank relearn? I was surprised that when I got my W4M, nothing was needed. I swapped it in and the truck fired right up, and never gave me a SES light for the crank relearn...? What the heck did that mean?

He replied...

Oh boy!! If the security relearn procedure doesn't come up on a pcm swap, that means the GM security system is disabled in the tune. Three years ago, we used to shut the security off until we learned how easy it was to steal the trucks! Now we never shut it off unless specifically asked for, like in a race vehicle. So yes, you will need to do the security procedure. But, since the crank relearn ses (P0300) code didn't come up, this pcm shouldn't need that. No code P0300, no need to do the crank relearn.

That's nice to know my W4M tune had security disabled without me requesting it. Wicked. :nono:

 

dang yo, its a good thing to know they can do that for future refrence or people lookin into getting a tune.

 

As long as the alarm works with the new tune, why would the security be disabled? Never even heard of a Security Relearn Procedure. The only thing you should need with a new tune is a Crank Relearn Procedure, which I still have yet to do on my truck. If security systems are an option, aren't all of them seperate modules anyway? I have a Clifford alarm and it works flawlessly, and believe me I've tested it many times.

Haven't had any problems with Jesse, sent it back and got a retune done for free minus the cost of shipping. It'd be easiest to email Hannah, his wife at hannahbubb@yahoo.com . I usually got responses within 24 hours. I would have to agree with you that the customer service isn't that great. The only limiting factor with my application was money, so I really had no other choice but to go with W4M. I would go with Nelson anyday, as long as I had the money. Nelson contacted me directly with answers to my questions even though I was not ordering from him. Many times I specifically asked questions from Jesse, even writing him a letter and sending it off with my PCM to get retuned, asking a few simple requests (i.e. telling me the shift points for the tune) and he still never replied or let me know. Hannah seems to be more customer oriented :imo. I got more service ordering my LS1 fan harness from Nelson than I did ordering my PCM from Jesse. End of story

 

Well Jesse told me he get's 300 emails a day and tuned over 8000 vehicles last year so he stays backed up. He helped me tune my truck, we still tryin to get my bugs worked out. Man he is a really friendly fella, and said he does everything he can to help customers. Just try to get in touch with him he will help you up..... He knows his stuff... He told me I was the hardest most aggravating truck he has ever tuned. (hahaa) Good Luck on finding the porblem.

 

i love my nelson :shake: no problems ever

 

Well Jesse told me he get's 300 emails a day and tuned over 8000 vehicles last year so he stays backed up. He helped me tune my truck, we still tryin to get my bugs worked out. Man he is a really friendly fella, and said he does everything he can to help customers. Just try to get in touch with him he will help you up..... He knows his stuff... He told me I was the hardest most aggravating truck he has ever tuned. (hahaa) Good Luck on finding the porblem.

Not that I don't think Jesse is capable of "getting the bugs worked out"

I just don't have the patience. I now consider the $158.10 I sent him, the price for a core. Westers has it now, and are in the process of flashing over the W4M tune. They waived the core charge, so i'm only out around $30 bucks total... if I went with them in the first place.

I'll post the results when I get the Westers Tune.

 

Installed the Westers yesterday.

Much better. Good crisp shifts, throws you back in the seat at launch. Tow/Haul set to 5800 rpm shifts. I'm very, very happy. It was more money, but definiatly worth it.

 

Glad it worked out. :read:

 

Glad your happy with your new tune. I never had a problem with my tune from jess. I think his tune is great. the thing is not everyone is going to be happy with thier tunes . All tuners have people that hate thier tunes or it didnt go as they planed. No bodies perfect.

 

Installed the Westers yesterday.

Much better. Good crisp shifts, throws you back in the seat at launch. Tow/Haul set to 5800 rpm shifts. I'm very, very happy. It was more money, but definiatly worth it.

westers have a specialised (forums need spell check) ordering form or did you just have them tune it?

 

(forums need spell check)

Now you want the forum to cater to Stupid people?

 

Now you want the forum to cater to Stupid people?

No i just want our forum to be filled with people that are more focused on personal matters than the actual topics. If you want to make fun of my dumb ass just send me a PM. Try not to whore up the forum with Tiki hate because it takes up to much bandwith :crazy:

 

No i just want our forum to be filled with people that are more focused on personal matters than the actual topics. If you want to make fun of my dumb ass just send me a PM. Try not to whore up the forum with Tiki hate because it takes up to much bandwith :crazy:

Chacho is a :wank: anyway. Dont worry about him!

 

This is interesting because I ordered my tune last summer, was very happy with it, got some new 305s and had it tuned to that and a couple other tweaks I wrote a letter and just sent it to him, came back in less than a week exactly how I wanted it. Glad your new tune worked out, though.

 

Interesting new development. I sent my W4M PCM to Westers in Massachusetts for a retune today. I asked Butch..



He replied...



That's nice to know my W4M tune had security disabled without me requesting it. Wicked. :nono:

That sounds like some FUD.

Security and Crank Relearn aren't related.

-bZj

 

Installed the Westers yesterday.

Much better. Good crisp shifts, throws you back in the seat at launch. Tow/Haul set to 5800 rpm shifts. I'm very, very happy. It was more money, but definiatly worth it.

Did you notice a power difference between the w4me or the Westers?

Self tuning is always another option, tune for your friends and let them pay for your equipement.

peace
Hog

 

It's been a while since i posted on this -

The Westers has not given me any problems. I find myself playing in the tow/haul ass mode more than often (5800rpm shifts, nuts 1/4-1/2 throttle response).

The Westers has MORE getup and go than the W4M i've noted.

The Westers has a snappier shift to it, 1-2, 2-3.. Almost tire barking, if I didn't have AWD.

The Westers hasn't given me a Crank Relearn MIL to date, and I don't believe it will now after almost a month.


So far, to date, running with the Westers for almost a month :thumbsup: