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NNBS 1500 (07-13) Lift Kit Guide - READ BEFORE POSTING

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Got questions about lifting your 2007-2013 half ton truck? Read this first!


LEVELING KITS
Generally speaking, most NNBS trucks have between 2-2.25 inches of factory “rake”. Leveling kits come as either top or bottom coilover spacers, or a combination of both. Top spacers net lift equal to their thickness (1/2” spacer = 1/2” lift). Bottom spacer give lift double the size of the spacer, so a 1 inch spacer gives 2 inches of lift. As a general rule of thumb, do not run more than a 2.5” leveling kit without upgrading other components to avoid bad front suspension angles and accelerated wear on front end parts. If you wish to run a 3”+ leveling kit, at a minimum upgrade to aftermarket UCAs and if 4WD, differential drops as well. Bilstein makes leveling struts, these can be set at 0, 0.59, 1.18, and 1.77” of lift. These can be stacked with leveling kits, but most are reporting the struts giving more lift than advertised at those settings, so you might want to run the setup at a quarter inch lower than you want.

Some companies offer “bigger” leveling kits which do not require subframe drop, and therefore no cutting on 4WD models. The Rough Country 3.5, Fabtech/Readylift/FTS 4” are all basically the same. They all use a leveling spacer with upgraded UCAs and small 1.5” differential drops. Although the UCAs and CVs (differential) are taken care of, the LCA and the tie rods are not given any kind of relief. This causes accelerated wear on those parts. Some never report problems, others have multiple problems frequently so it’s a toss-up if you’ll like or dislike these style kits. An alternative is to run these kits with a smaller leveling spacer (like a 3”) to keep the excessive wear down but still give you a little more room than a normal leveling kit.

SPINDLES
Some companies make lift spindles. THESE WILL ONLY FIT 2WD TRUCKS. Most are between the 3 and 4” range. When installed, these will give you the same suspension angles as factory, meaning you can add a leveling kit onto it. Use the same rules as above when adding on a leveling kit. With the exception of CST spindles, these spindles will increase your front track width by 1.5-2”, therefore some factory rims will require wheel spacers if you want to run them. Consult with the appropriate manufacturer.

SPINDLETECH 3" SPINDLES
- They DO work with factory 17" wheel with zero spacers needed
- 285/70/17's fit with a very slight rub on the inner fender (no metal trimming needed) The primary reason they rub is because of the increase in track width. Not for lack of fender space
- When used with a 2" RC level (lower puck) it took "maximum adjustments" on the UCA cam-plates to come within spec on the alignment rack. So I'm confident in saying that I would NOT attempt to go higher than 5" total without purchasing a legit lift kit. Otherwise your front end will hate you.
- This kit requires slight trimming of the brake-dust shield. Nothing major.
- Also, your brake lines and ABS lines will need relocation brackets unless your content with zip-tying them to the bottom of your UCA.

LIFT KITS

READ: If your truck is 4WD and you go with a subframe kit like those listed below you MUST cut your frame. There is no such thing as 100% bolt on for 4WD trucks.

Lift kits are either knuckle style or full drop. Knuckle means that your UCAs and steering remain in the factory position, so larger spindles give you lift. These kits are easier to install, but generally increase the track width of the front of the vehicle by 1.5-2”. Also some will require wheel spacers if you want to run factory wheels. Full Drop lifts drop literally everything in the front suspension, including UCAs and the steering components. This makes them more difficult to install. Some older full drop kits wouldn’t hold alignments as well as their knuckle counterparts. Since factory spindles are retained in these lifts, you can run any normal factory wheel without needing wheel spacers. Since only FTS and Bulletproof make full drop kits for these trucks, unless specified all information pertains to knuckle style. I break knuckle lifts down into two categories; true and stretched. True lifts drop the differential the same distance as the LCAs, giving you completely flat suspension geometry when first installed. Stretched lifts do not drop the differential the full distance; usually it is an inch or so of difference. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but it gives you fewer options for adjusting your lift.

BULLETPROOF SUSPENSION
• 8” full drop true lift kit. Bulletproof uses a one-piece subframe (meaning the front and rear crossmembers are connected into one cage) and is a reputable company, but is pretty pricey so you don’t see many of these kits. But they are outstanding quality and the only “full drop” style kit available in 8”.

BDS/ZONE OFF ROAD
• 4.5” true lift kit. This is a “true” lift kit; the LCA dropdowns match the differential drops. Since it uses replacement struts, if you wish to add-on to the lift you can add an upper or lower strut spacer. I wouldn’t add more than 2” to this kit.

• 6.5” stretched lift kit. The only difference in the front components of this kit is longer struts; it is a stretched version of the 4.5” kit. I personally wouldn’t try adding any kind of a leveling spacer to this kit.

CST SUSPENSION
• 4” true lift kit. Like Bulletproof and Cognito, CST is top-tier in quality and sturdiness, but like them, are also some of the most expensive kits on the market. Like Rancho and Bulletproof, CST uses a one-piece subframe. The 4” kit can be adjusted 2” with bottom spacers. One unique thing about CST is they fabricate their spindles so that your track width isn’t increased.

• 8” true lift kit. Like Bulletproof and Cognito, CST is top-tier in quality and sturdiness, but like them, is also some of the most expensive kits. Like Rancho and Bulletproof, CST uses a one-piece subframe. The 8” kit can be adjusted 2” with either upper or bottom spacers. One unique thing about CST is they fabricate their spindles so that your track width isn’t increased.

COGNITO MOTORSPORTS
• 7” true lift kit. These kits come with Bilstein 7-9 adjustable struts. Cognito is considered one the sturdiest kits on the market, but some of the most expensive as well.

• 10” true lift kit. These kits come with Bilstein 10-12 adjustable struts. If you have to read this article for legitimate information, you can’t afford it and probably shouldn’t be buying it or installing it.

FABTECH
• 6” true lift kit. Advertised as a 6” kit, this kit is actually a 7.5-8” lift kit. The differential is dropped the entire distance, so you can safely add on 2 inches without having to upgrade anything else. The Fabtech uses a lower strut extension, so you would need an upper strut spacer to add on. However the Fabtech strut extension is wildly unpopular, so many people use the Bilstein 7-9 adjustable struts (available from FTS or Cognito) instead.

FULL THROTTLE SUSPENSION
• 7” true lift kit. I believe drops measure around 7.5”, but again, since everything is dropped full, you can safely add on about 2 inches to it. Like the Fabtech, it uses a lower strut replacement so if you want to add a leveling spacer look into an upper one. Also like Fabtech, the extension is unpopular, so most look into the Bilstein 7-9 struts.

• 10” full drop true lift kit. If you have to read this article for legitimate information, you can’t afford it and probably shouldn’t be buying it or installing it.

• 10” true lift kit. Brand new, don’t know much about it. If you have to read this article for legitimate information, you can’t afford it and probably shouldn’t be buying it or installing it.

• 15” full drop true lift kit. If you have to read this article for legitimate information, you can’t afford it and probably shouldn’t be buying it or installing it.

MCGAUGHY’S SUSPENSION
• 7” true lift kit. This kit is basically a carbon copy of the fabtech kit, so read up on the fabtech info. McGaughy’s does make their own 7-9 adjustable struts which are copies of the Bilsteins and are available with purchase.

PRO COMP
• 6” stretched lift kit. I believe the LCA drop downs on this lift are just short of 6” on this kit, and like other similar kits, differential drops are in the neighborhood of 5 inches. Pro Comp uses an upper strut spacer, so if you want to add on to the lift, a lower spacer is your best bet. I wouldn’t add more than a ½” (1” lift) spacer to this kit.

RANCHO
• 4” stretched lift kit. Although advertised as 4”, the LCA dropdowns measure 5.25” on this kit, so installed it gives between 5.5-6 inches of lift. Like Zone, it uses replacement struts so you can use upper or lower leveling spacers. I think the differential drops measure about 4-5 inches, so you have some room if you want to adjust it. Rancho uses a one-piece subframe on their lift.

ROUGH COUNTRY
• 5” true lift kit. Everything is dropped a full 5 inches. RCX uses an upper strut spacer, so if you want to add a lower spacer is your best bet. You can safely add up to 2” onto this kit.

• 7.5” stretched lift kit. This kit is the same (up front) as the 5 but it has 7.5” upper strut spacers instead. Do not try to add anything onto this kit. Because this kit requires you to cut the droop stops off, it is one of the few highly UNRECOMMENDED lifts by GMFS members.

SUPERLIFT
• 6” stretched lift kit. LCA drops measure 5.75”. and differential drops are in the neighborhood of 5 inches. The basic Superlift also uses an upper strut spacer, so if you want to add on to the lift, a lower spacer is your best bet. I wouldn’t add more than a ½” (1” lift) spacer to this kit.

• 8” true lift kit. I’ve never seen anyone running this kit so don’t have any real info, but it appears to be similar to the Fabtech/McGaughys lifts.
 
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So currently I have FTS set to 9" with my Bilsteins and upgraded FTS UCA, does that mean I can run say a 2" TOP SPACER fine without issues?


So that would put me at 11" with a rake in the rear which I would correct with an add a leaf. Is that correct? Any recommendations in top spacers?


Or is the Bilsteins at 9" already pushing it and a top spacer is NOT recommended?
 
#5 ·
So currently I have FTS set to 9" with my Bilsteins and upgraded FTS UCA, does that mean I can run say a 2" TOP SPACER fine without issues?


So that would put me at 11" with a rake in the rear which I would correct with an add a leaf. Is that correct? Any recommendations in top spacers?


Or is the Bilsteins at 9" already pushing it and a top spacer is NOT recommended?
You need to read. FTS is a 7" kit. You can only add a leveling kit when its set at a 7. 9" is about the max you can stretch a 7" kit.
 
#6 ·
SpindleTech 3" Spindle (aka EBay Spindles) are very well constructed and worth every penny of the $229 price tag. Unless you just want brand name shit on your truck, these spindles do their job well.

- They DO work with factory 17" wheel with zero spacers needed
- 285/70/17's fit with a very slight rub on the inner fender (no metal trimming needed) The primary reason they rub is because of the increase in track width. Not for lack of fender space
- I used this spindle in addition to a 2" RC level (lower puck) and it took "maximum adjustments" on the UCA cam-plates to come within spec on the alignment rack. So I'm confident in saying that I would NOT attempt to go higher than 5" total without purchasing a legit lift kit. Otherwise your front end will hate you.

- This kit requires slight trimming of the brake-dust shield. Nothing major.
- Also, your brake lines and ABS lines will need relocation brackets unless your content with zip-tying them to the bottom of your UCA. They were a little too stretched for my tastes when I tried reattaching them to the factory mounting points.
 
#7 ·
Nice! FYI, the CST 4" 4WD lift kit already utilizes top-mounted strut spacers to achieve their height.

PerformanceLifts.com's tech dept. also cautioned me that if I would have gone with a lower-mounted 1-1.5" strut spacer, I'd be stuck having to run OEM replacement struts because some part of the adjustable Bilstein 5100's (even set on the stock 0.0" lift setting) would have fitment issues. Plus that double strut spacer setup would cause my ride quality to suffer and front end parts to wear quicker.
 
#9 ·
They look to be nice, just most people don't buy full replacement coilovers for leveling purposes. Too expensive when a 2-2.5 inch level costs under a hundred bucks.
 
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I have a pro comp 6 inch lift with the spacer on the front suspension. I want to replace that with a full shock/coil over to make it a better ride. Do you have any suggestions on which shock I should go with? I have a 08 Chevrolet 5.3L LT 2wd.
 
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I have a pro comp 6 inch lift with the spacer on the front suspension. I want to replace that with a full shock/coil over to make it a better ride. Do you have any suggestions on which shock I should go with? I have a 08 Chevrolet 5.3L LT 2wd.
Blistens 5100 or for resis 5160

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#19 ·
I have a pro comp 6 inch lift with the spacer on the front suspension. I want to replace that with a full shock/coil over to make it a better ride. Do you have any suggestions on which shock I should go with? I have a 08 Chevrolet 5.3L LT 2wd.

Fox coil overs from bds for their 6" kit would work. Bilstein doesn't make a strut for your height. You could use the stock height and your spacer, cheapest route, and would ride good.


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#20 ·
Fox coil overs from bds for their 6" kit would work. Bilstein doesn't make a strut for your height. You could use the stock height and your spacer, cheapest route, and would ride good.


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This^^ I forgot this was for nnbs my bad :handshake:

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Anybody run fox resis in the rear on their nnbs 7-9 kits? I cant find part numbers, or even an online dealer with decent pricing.
 
#22 ·
I have a pro comp 6 inch lift with the spacer on the front suspension. I want to replace that with a full shock/coil over to make it a better ride. Do you have any suggestions on which shock I should go with? I have a 08 Chevrolet 5.3L LT 2wd.
Fox coil overs from bds for their 6" kit would work. Bilstein doesn't make a strut for your height. You could use the stock height and your spacer, cheapest route, and would ride good.


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wat he said, or call up pro comp and get their coil overs for your kit
 
#23 ·
I'm new to the forum, going on 2 hours now and after reading through countless threads, dyeing laughing on some of them this is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you very much, I've been pulling my hair out plugging and playing numbers and costs over the last few weeks trying to find the right combo for my truck. I noticed the thread title, glad you chose, “READ BEFORE POSTING." I'm new and that is exactly what I didn't want to do, post the same questions 43 other people have asked and the same people answer. Gear heads by nature in my experience of working with are not very forgiving in nature. After being asked something the 3rd tops 4th time they want to rip your head off. Again great thread got everything I needed.

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#24 ·
Impressively put together. Quality info for lots of the guys looking at getting lifts. Many don't understand how crucial keeping the things as close to factory as possible really is. I went with Fabtech. Don't regret that decision in any way. Amazing kit. I have one question for anyone familiar with the Bilstein 7-9 Front Struts. I want to run the at around 9" in front. Should I be worried about my UCA's? and I cant stand lean, so would the best way to fix it be AAL's something like a shackle.

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#25 ·
I cant stand lean, so would the best way to fix it be AAL's something like a shackle.

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I would wait for the kit to settle before you do anything.

Not sure how long you have had it on, but you will lose 1/2-3/4" by the time everything settles down.
 
#26 ·
This guy had a Fabtech with struts at 8.. angles are almost flat so you could probably run it at 9 without needing UCAs (though they would help)

http://www.gmfullsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=180381

Your fabtech comes with an AAL already, so besides a shackle flip or full replacement springs you could run a 6" FTS block with your current AAL (I think your block right now is a 5")